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  • #16
    Re: Garlaige at 31?

    RDM/PLD, not PLD/RDM, tuggler. I am enjoying leveling PLD though, seems to have a better feel than counting shadows did. Maybe because I have some actual DEF instead of just Blink. Maybe I'll take it further, I dunno.

    As for self-cures, I've been having healers that are very active, so I usually self cure as soon as Cure 2 will have full effect. Haven't had MP problems yet. Sentinel is really great though. How does the +enmity work on it, though? Is it a flat boost when you activate the JA, or do all your actions while under the effect of it increase enmity?

    And, when I get Cover at 35, how do I use it properly? Stand between mob and player, use Cover on player?

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    • #17
      Re: Garlaige at 31?

      Originally posted by LoneGamer View Post
      Sentinel is really great though. How does the +enmity work on it, though? Is it a flat boost when you activate the JA, or do all your actions while under the effect of it increase enmity?
      I believe it is both. You get a boost when you activate it but each additonal thing you do adds to your +enmity.
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      • #18
        Re: Garlaige at 31?

        Originally posted by LoneGamer View Post
        And, when I get Cover at 35, how do I use it properly? Stand between mob and player, use Cover on player?
        Yes, that is exactly how you do it.
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        • #19
          Re: Garlaige at 31?

          Yeah, it's both. Sentinel has some spike hate on activation, but the real beauty is what it does to your enmity during those 30 secs. Always leave room for at least one Cure when popping Sentinel, it really does a lot. Not to mention you'll lose very little hate in the meantime as well due to little damage taken. I usually wrap it up with a Flash right before it ends to both extend how long I'm not taking damage for, and that one last enmity push. After that it's smooth sailing hate-wise.

          Sentinel makes so much hate so quickly that in my opinion its best use is to communicate with the DDs and agree that they can be "reckless" with their damage on fights you start with Sentinel. Letting the DRK Souleater early or that RNG use WS + Barrage really shortens the fight.

          As for Cover, you have the right idea. You'll want at the very least /p Cover <stpc> in your macro line. Some sort of notification would be ideal as well. Select the party member you want to Cover, then make sure you're between him/her and the mob. A few things, though...Cover's duration is relatively short (usually 15 secs.) That's barely enough for 4 mob swings. Using Cover after you've lined up, rather than using it and then lining up, will save precious time. Also, it's generally a lot easier for the DD to get behind you than it is for you to get between him/her and the mob. Finally, some DDs just aren't aware of Cover. It's good to tell them they can pull hate every now and then and let them know when it's up.

          More than anything, communication is the key when using Cover. When the DDs actually work with you by giving you a heads-up and getting behind you before doing whatever it is they're planning, Cover can work beautifully. When the DD doesn't give you any kind of warning, doesn't move, doesn't leave space between him/her and the mob, or worse, the both of you keep moving, Cover can be a pain in the ass. Oh, yeah, and it's usually best to use Cover when the DDs pull BIG hate. If they don't pull so much that a Shield Bash or a Cure III would've done the trick on its own, it's kind of wasting its potential for buying time.

          Don't forget that if it's up, you can also buy time with Flash. Flash to Cover or Cover to Flash are both good ways of keeping the DD safe for a relatively long amount of time in a situation where you would've had to use a lot of MP or 2 JAs in a row just to keep the mob from beating on the DD for the next 20 secs.

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          • #20
            Re: Garlaige at 31?

            To hit topic, despite the fact that the OP is already above this level... Garlaige is fine @32 in my experience. Most parties in Altep @32 have 33s in them, and for some reason I was never satisfied with Altep exp @33. At any rate, I really enjoy Garlaige 32-36. Mnk + Rng does really well in there. Both, bats and beetles, are pretty weak to Fusion, so Dulling Arrow (or whatever it's called that lowers INT and thus decreases resistance to the SC/MB damage) to Combo will destroy them pretty quick. Of course, RNGs will rip apart bats just on merits of piercing (and Armando tells me bats are a bit weak to smashing as well??? That would help explain why they're always the party star - as Mario would say). So yeah... if you happen to stumble across a party layout like that, you'll be fine @32. 31, however, very iffy.
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            • #21
              Re: Garlaige at 31?

              OP is PLD31, hence why I'm asking. Back in Yhoator right now..

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              • #22
                Re: Garlaige at 31?

                ive been lvling in garlaige since i was 31, and only once did we have troubles but thats beacuse our stupid puller happened to grab 3 differnt things

                Read if you don't value your braincells.

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                • #23
                  Re: Garlaige at 31?

                  Originally posted by Van'derfel View Post
                  ive been lvling in garlaige since i was 31, and only once did we have troubles but thats beacuse our stupid puller happened to grab 3 differnt things
                  Was the rest of the party 31 as well?

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                  • #24
                    Re: Garlaige at 31?

                    For Garlaige Citadel at level 31, I think it is fine for back-line jobs like WHM, BRD, BLM, back-line RDM, etc. Before the range-attack adjustment, toss in RNG/NIN was great on Bat at level 31 in Garlaige Citadel --- the old RNG/NIN shoot-it-and-tank-it at blank point style.

                    Some exceptional parties should be fine too, like having a BRD, or PLD and mages make juice at the camp, etc. If the party is doing bad in Garlaige Citadel at level 31, I usually suggest the party move to Sauromugue Champaign (G-6) camp, fighting Evil Weapons.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Garlaige at 31?

                      Well, I've been taking advantage of my Cooking skill to keep me in Pineapple Juice until I get Auto-Refresh ever since I hit Kazham.

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                      • #26
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                        • #27
                          Re: Garlaige at 31?

                          Originally posted by LoneGamer View Post
                          RDM/PLD, not PLD/RDM, tuggler.
                          D'oh! . Well it was late at night when I read the thread and replied.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Garlaige at 31?

                            Originally posted by Van'derfel View Post
                            ive been lvling in garlaige since i was 31, and only once did we have troubles but thats beacuse our stupid puller happened to grab 3 differnt things
                            Were you doing a mage job as a level 31 in Garlaige? Because that's a whole lot different than being a tank. It really hurts a tank job when it's forced to over hunt, especially if it's a blood tank. Blink tanks and mages can get away with it more easily.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Garlaige at 31?

                              Originally posted by Murphie View Post
                              Was the rest of the party 31 as well?
                              yeah everyone was 31

                              Originally posted by LyonheartLakshmi View Post
                              Were you doing a mage job as a level 31 in Garlaige? Because that's a whole lot different than being a tank. It really hurts a tank job when it's forced to over hunt, especially if it's a blood tank. Blink tanks and mages can get away with it more easily.
                              yeah i was a rdm/whm but we were doing fairly well, forget the rest of the pt cause it wasnt a static but we got 5 lvls that day, but then i logged on got aggroed and deleveled

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