Is my defense normal?

[MisterCookie]

I'm a level 71 paladin, and I have about 350 defence. Is this a normal value? It seems like it should be much higher.

Setup is:
Weapon: Joyeuse
Shield: RK Shield
Head: Gallant Coronet
Body: Gallant Surcoat
Gloves: Gallant Gauntlets
Legs: Gallant Breeches
Feet: Gallant's Gauntlets
Ring1: Jelly Ring
Ring 2: Verve Ring
Ranged: Bibiki Seashell
Earring1: Mercenary Earring
Earring2: Drone Earring
Neck: Parade Gorget
Back: Knight's Mantle
Belt: Warwolf Belt

Sorry if this is kind of a stupid question, but I'm OCD and have to know if my value is right.

[DakAttack]

Re: Is my defense normal?

Defense and Vitality are over-rated, but your RK Shield, Verve Ring, and earrings concern me. I would definately attempt to find a General's or Admiral's Shield, +Skill Earrings, a Life Belt, and a ring that offers more than just Vitality.

Eventually people wont invite you to parties unless you can /Nin with DD gear, so it's not a bad idea to invest now. Finances willing, I'd start with a Haub, Amemet Mantle +1, and Woodsman Rings.

[MisterCookie]

Re: Is my defense normal?

Well I got a life belt, NQ Amemet Mantle+1,and I have a shield(its a lvl 72/73-forgot) ready when I need it. Any specific earrings you can recommend?

[Weeeekujata]

Re: Is my defense normal?

kinda depends what you want to do

[Landis]

Re: Is my defense normal?

buy a general's shield...the beast killer really helps. then koenig shield at 73.

[Karinya]

Re: Is my defense normal?

I disagree with the lifebelt, Warwolf's enmity is too good to pass up in most situations (the str/dex/vit is nice too, but the enmity is definitely the main selling point).

I'd recommend Hercules for the second ring slot. Enmity is important at higher levels where DDs do more damage; there's nothing else as beneficial that you can get in a ring slot. Sattva is even better if you can get it, but you have to complete all CoP missions, which can be pretty tough.

If you're having trouble holding hate, consider high breath mantle, too.

As for earrings, there aren't any really good ones that aren't ridiculously expensive, or worse, ex and really hard to get (24-hour-pop NMs, quests that require completing all CoP missions, stuff like that). What you have is fine for leveling, though.

350 sounds about right for someone who doesn't have any of the real endgame gear yet. Enmity is often more of a challenge than getting hit too hard (against normal mobs, at least). 500+ def is more of an HNM setup with food and Defender than something you would use commonly in exp.

At 73, check out the adaman cuirass set. You may not want to wear all of it, but some pieces may be better than anything else you have.


Once you get to 74 or 75, come back and look at Dak's advice. Until then ignore it. (No offense - it's good advice, just not yet.)

[Celeal]

Re: Is my defense normal?

Besides Life Belt, Potent Belt (lvl 60 DEF:5 STR+3 Accuracy+8) maybe a nice option too. I think Warwolf Belt is fine too, only if the build does not focus heavily on TP-gain from hitting the mob. There is more than one way for PLD to perform his task, depends on situation.

[JP_Ikari]

Re: Is my defense normal?

No Hercules's Ring?? Get that if you can. Switch Drone out with Buckler Earring. Shield should be General's/Admiral's til you're 73 (for Koenig/Kaiser). 73 will be Adaman (yes it looks ugly but it's the best armor besides getting Valor or Koenig (which most cases is never used on exp)). And that's about it. That's a DEF and old school PLD set up. Unless you're on a burn party, then if you are, you're going DD gear >.>.

JP

[Sevv]

Re: Is my defense normal?

is that with food and buffs? or just normal. Cuz with food and buffs and set for tanking my nin has 590ish defense lol

edit: that def sounds a lil low min ima go waste some gil and ill get real #

[JP_Ikari]

Re: Is my defense normal?

is that with food and buffs? or just normal. Cuz with food and buffs and set for tanking my nin has 590ish defense lol
edit: that def sounds a lil low min ima go waste some gil and ill get real #

Sev, you're 75 as nin? Just wondering seeing I think NIN can pump 590ish DEF with food (Pescatora) and Buffs. Seeing we PLD's have no access to god gear (some of which have high DEF values), you can reach that value as a NIN faster than a PLD can. For me, I pretty much get around the average of 450 to 480 (that's 2 pieces of Koenig gear) pre-buffs and break 600+ when I get buffs and Pescatora. He's also 71 (from what he said) which should be around 360+. And he doesn't have Generals'/Admirals' Shield which I believe has 10 more DEF than his shield. Other than that, yes, I believe that's pretty basic on the DEF total of a PLD at 71 pre-Adaman/Koenig.

JP

[Landis]

Re: Is my defense normal?

With tav. taco,protect IV and defender up, my def is a little over 750. Defender you can always have up so it's not really a temporary buff. I could be wrong and i'll have to check when i get home but i'm pretty sure the 750ish def is right. Unbuffed i sit around 425 i think.