Question on rings.

[Dadelon]

Hello fellow Tanks,

I have a small question on rings.As a hume Pld,which set would-
be the better of the two.

A pair of +1 staminas,or a pair of verves.
Lvl 36 is right around the corner and I don't want to wear one ring.
only to find out that the other was better...

Please let me know. THANK YOU.......................

[Icemage]

Re: Question on rings.

If you're talking about:

Verve Ring, Lv36:
Vitality+3, Earth Resist+6

Stamina Ring+1, Lv14:
Vitality+2, Earth Resist+5

The Verve Ring is clearly superior as long as you're level 36+. The level restrictions can be an issue if you're doing an activity where you are restricted to below level 36 (Chains of Promathia Chapter 1: Promyvion - Lv30, or city mission #6 in any city - Lv25).


Icemage

[eticket109]

Re: Question on rings.

I've always felt adding VIT was better then pure DEF unless there is a large disparity as VIT effects the damage curve as a whole. So in that regard, I would go with the 2 Verves. It comes down to:

2 DEF 4 VIT 10 EAR
vs
0 DEF 6 VIT 12 EAR

Between those two, I would take the Verve unless you plan on tanking any 20 or 30 BCs, in which case just stick with the Stamina +1.

Neither is really the wrong choice though imo.

[Taskmage]

Re: Question on rings.

Stamina +1 gives an additional 1 defense though, right? So which is better really depends on whether you've reached a level of defense where the mob's pDIF is bottoming out. I don't know if that's possible with the equip available to a level 36 pld, but I bet it isn't. Based on that, I would say Stamina +1 is probably better, but the difference in performance is going to be so small you might not even see a difference. Just get whichever is cheapest or easiest for you to acquire. Nobody would criticize your choice of either in a party ... not if they had any sense. Of course, if you can find/afford a Verve +1 ring, that would be the best of both worlds.

[Celeal]

Re: Question on rings.

In my opinion, the VIT +3 ring is a better choice. It can last until level 50 ~ 54, or even higher if you don't plan to spend on VIT +4 ring.

Even to me, additional +1 VIT or +2 VIT points seems hardly make a noticeable improvement: If you have too much VIT+ gear, missing 1 or 2 VIT points may not make a big different. If you don't have enough VIT+ gear, adding 1 or 2 VIT points may not be enough impact.

However, the advantage of Verve Ring is you can wear one Verve Ring, and fill in the other ring slot with different type of ring. If VIT+ is not your solution, feel free to try other rings like ACC+, AGI+, etc. My suggestion is trial and error, test it yourself: if you dislike the ring, you can always sell it back.

[Armando]

Re: Question on rings.

2 DEF 4 VIT 10 EAR
vs
0 DEF 6 VIT 12 EAR

Correction:

4 Def, 4 VIT, 10 Earth resistance
vs
3 Def, 6 VIT, 12 Earth resistance

1 VIT is generally greater than 1 Defense. Verve Wins. Doesn't make much of a difference, though.

[Skoal]

Re: Question on rings.

Stamina +1 offers 1 def so
2 DEF 4 VIT 10 EAR (stamina +1 ) x 2
vs
0 DEF 6 VIT 12 EAR (verve nq) x 2
is right.

Verve+1 is 2 def Vit +3 Earth +7 for each ring

[Raydeus]

Re: Question on rings.

Stamina +1 offers 1 def so
2 DEF 4 VIT 10 EAR (stamina +1 ) x 2
vs
0 DEF 6 VIT 12 EAR (verve nq) x 2
is right.

Verve+1 is 2 def Vit +3 Earth +7 for each ring

Armando is considering that 2 VIT give you +1 DEF though.

so it would be :

2 (+2 bonus )DEF, 4 VIT, 10 Earth

VS

0 (+3 Bonus) DEF, 6 VIT, 12 Earth


I'd go for Verve rings, and Verve +1 does indeed win all.

[eticket109]

Re: Question on rings.

Hah... both are right. Armando is just taking it a step further and taking the VIT stat into account when showing the DEF rating.

The pure DEF from the two Stamina +1 rings is 2. However, the 4 VIT would make the total DEF 4. Whereas the +6 VIT from the Verves would add the 3 DEF into the calculation.

[Dadelon]

Re: Question on rings.

Thank you for all the replies.
Did some checking up on armor upgrades at lvl 40.
About the only vit loss I see so far would be when-
I swap the centurion chest for a breastplate.

The IM headpeice does add 2 vit if I remember.
(I don't know) def or vit,def or vit,def or vit,Will It ever stop?

I've got 4 lvls to figure It all out.(Yeah Right)
And quite a few BCNM to do to pay for it all.

Anyway,Thanks fellas.
And a /salute to you all.......................

[Davitron3000]

Re: Question on rings.

(I don't know) def or vit,def or vit,def or vit,Will It ever stop?

I really wouldn't worry so much about def. I think if you use decent up to date gear for your level, the def will take care of itself in most cases. I would worry about +vit, + anything that can help you shield block, and then + anything that will help you hold hate. (maybe not in that order)

[Caspian]

Re: Question on rings.

All the PLD's I've talked to in game and out have told me that in the early levels your main concern needs to be VIT followed by DEF. There isn't a lot of +VIT gear, so you end up going with DEF more often than not.
Later on you'll start looking for more HP and +Enmity gear, and eventually you pretty well bottom out the mob's pdif and stacking more VIT will give you decreasing returns. But for right now I'd stick with VIT as much as possible unless the amount of DEF is ungodly higher than the amount of VIT offered by two competing pieces of gear.

[dirtyclown]

Re: Question on rings.

Do yourself a favor and pick up some strength rings. Switch to them secretly while in a party, either during a WS or just make a seperate macro for them. I've got a few pieces that I do that with. If you feel you're taking too much damage switch back, but otherwise there's no reason why you can't contribute a little more to the party.

[Dadelon]

Re: Question on rings.

Yeah ding 36 plus a nice buffer last weekend yeah!
I do appreciate the replies in this post.
Finally got enough drops from "Wings of furry" to
pay for most of the lvl 40 upgrade.

But back to the Rings......
Think for now I'll go with one of each.Verve NQ & Stamina +1.
Gonna check the price on materials for verve+1 and see if
a high lvl crafter can make them.

/sigh....only 4k exp untill Flash.Too bad I gotta wait untill weekend
(10-12 hr shifts only give me about 1 1/2 hrs during the week)

Anyway,Thanks fellas and as always......................../salute

[Sabaron]

Re: Question on rings.

I'll also say that PLDs can also benefit from the +mp rings, especially at lower levels. Though I'm not a PLD myself, I've seen these types of rings used to extra-ordinary efficacy by some PLDs--they make you more Taru-like which is good especially if you're Elvaan or Galka (I'm assuming from your avatar that you're Hume, however). This is especially good if you have a refresher and are getting upwards of 4mp/tick. The bonus allows you to hold hate for longer. WRT Strength Rings, you don't have to use a STR+ ring--getting a nice Mighty Ring instead and activating it periodically will give you a nice buff if you can afford it. This gives you 3 ring swaps:

+VIT Swap (for after you've consumed the "cream" from the top of your mp pool
+Mana Swap (for getting that extra little buffer of mp)
Mighty Swap (for a little boost to your attack)