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  • #16
    Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

    I remember in FFTA Chivalry was a Paladin ability that allowed the Paladin to deal Holy damage to enemies within a few spaces of them. So maybe it's an AoE Holy spell? >.>;;
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    • #17
      Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

      Originally posted by Aerogenji
      I remember in FFTA Chivalry was a Paladin ability that allowed the Paladin to deal Holy damage to enemies within a few spaces of them. So maybe it's an AoE Holy spell? >.>;;
      Look up two posts =P
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      • #18
        Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

        Originally posted by Shopee
        In Chivalry, historically, a knight could only court a married lady.

        But...but....polygamay! I thought paladins were like....holy warriors...and divorce was bad, like adultery...and all that jazz....

        *gets an aneurism*


        On the bright side, that means I can still marry my RDM and have a Paladin side dish.

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        • #19
          Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

          Originally posted by Irisjir Callard
          But...but....polygamay! I thought paladins were like....holy warriors...and divorce was bad, like adultery...and all that jazz....

          *gets an aneurism*
          Hahahahaha, yeah it sounds pretty crazy at first, and it sort of is, but it makes more sense if you look at it like it was looked at.

          Courting for the Knight meant trying to win favors from the lady and protecting her honor. Winning favors of a sexual sort was NOT on the memo as far as what the Knight was officially after, but off the record it was quite a different matter.

          Plus, it was bad, like, really bad to go after the innocence of an unmarried woman. A married woman had already lost that innocence and was thus a better target than some innocent maiden.

          Of course, that's the historical version of things. In the romanticized version, they're a lot more palletable.
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          • #20
            Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

            Originally posted by Shopee
            In Chivalry, historically, a knight could only court a married lady.

            Double Post Edited:
            Iron Will: Spell Interruption rate down added to the effect of Rampart.

            Guardian: Reduces enmity loss when using Sentinel.

            Fealty: Grants powerful resistance to enfeebling magic.

            Chivalry: Convert TP to MP.
            All of it is crap. =(

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            • #21
              Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

              Originally posted by Maju
              All of it is crap. =(
              Well aren't we Mr. Grumpy-pants.
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              • #22
                Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                Originally posted by Shopee
                Hahahahaha, yeah it sounds pretty crazy at first, and it sort of is, but it makes more sense if you look at it like it was looked at.

                Courting for the Knight meant trying to win favors from the lady and protecting her honor. Winning favors of a sexual sort was NOT on the memo as far as what the Knight was officially after, but off the record it was quite a different matter.

                Plus, it was bad, like, really bad to go after the innocence of an unmarried woman. A married woman had already lost that innocence and was thus a better target than some innocent maiden.

                Of course, that's the historical version of things. In the romanticized version, they're a lot more palletable.
                In an era where women were chattel, and considered as much a man's property as a horse, house, or hound, I'm not sure what 'favors' a woman could give. They were to my knowledge incapable of owning property, thus any monetary or items gifted to the knight would be considered stealing fromt heir husband.

                Women were also not consulted politcally, so it's not like she could ask her husband or his acquantances to have the knight 'promoted' or given a particular honor.

                So I'm kinda stumped as to what else those 'favors' COULD be (On the record, of course.)

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                If you know how to download and use VRS, I am interested in being tutored.
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                • #23
                  Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                  Guardian and Chivalry are good if you ask me.

                  EDIT:
                  In an era where women were chattel, and considered as much a man's property as a horse, house, or hound, I'm not sure what 'favors' a woman could give. They were to my knowledge incapable of owning property, thus any monetary or items gifted to the knight would be considered stealing fromt heir husband.

                  Women were also not consulted politcally, so it's not like she could ask her husband or his acquantances to have the knight 'promoted' or given a particular honor.

                  So I'm kinda stumped as to what else those 'favors' COULD be (On the record, of course.)
                  What about widows? Widowing was the only instance in which a woman would have property (she'd gain whatever her husband had.) If knights could court widows, then there would be something to gain. But, I'd guess in most cases a knight courting a woman was just for the sex.
                  Last edited by Armando; 07-24-2006, 01:18 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                    Originally posted by Irisjir Callard
                    In an era where women were chattel, and considered as much a man's property as a horse, house, or hound, I'm not sure what 'favors' a woman could give. They were to my knowledge incapable of owning property, thus any monetary or items gifted to the knight would be considered stealing fromt heir husband.

                    Women were also not consulted politcally, so it's not like she could ask her husband or his acquantances to have the knight 'promoted' or given a particular honor.

                    So I'm kinda stumped as to what else those 'favors' COULD be (On the record, of course.)
                    Remove the s from favors to get favor and it's a more accurate use of the word.

                    We aren't talking "Hey man, could you do me a favor?"
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                    • #25
                      Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                      Uh... level 75 Paladin gets what? 5TP per hit when blocking with a shield via Shield Mastery? Chivalry should be amazing if it has anything resembling a non-10 minute recast timer.

                      If Fealty works better than Resist traits (and it'd better), it could be very useful in a variety of end-game fights (Omega, Ultima, Proto-versions of both, Cerberus, etc.).

                      I don't see the point of either Guardian or Iron Will, but maybe the 75 Paladins here might find a use for one or the other.


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                      • #26
                        Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                        Originally posted by Icemage
                        Uh... level 75 Paladin gets what? 5TP per hit when blocking with a shield via Shield Mastery? Chivalry should be amazing if it has anything resembling a non-10 minute recast timer.
                        Oh I don't know. I never run out of MP anyway. What limits my PT is killing speed, not my MP.

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                        • #27
                          Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                          Originally posted by Maju
                          Oh I don't know. I never run out of MP anyway. What limits my PT is killing speed, not my MP.
                          Tacked onto auto-refresh and fully merited, perhaps this would mean that a refresher is not required for the Paladin?

                          I have no idea how effective it could be, but potentially, it might keep MP high enough....
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                          • #28
                            Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                            Well.. paring it off with the new whm ability to convert their hp into mp to give to another party member (Devotion), Protect V and Shell V it could be that plds would never run out of mp.
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                            • #29
                              Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                              Originally posted by Maju
                              All of it is crap. =(
                              Haha. We haven't even gotten to use them yet. Way to be positive...
                              Anyways, I think they all have potential.

                              Iron Will: Spell Interruption rate down added to the effect of Rampart.
                              Have to see how this works. Could be nice if it helps to get spells off when
                              being hit by a monk using Hundred Fists or when tanking Faust.


                              Guardian: Reduces enmity loss when using Sentinel.
                              Anything that helps me hold hate is not crap in my opinion.

                              Fealty: Grants powerful resistance to enfeebling magic.
                              I think this looks really good, and I hope to get it before my first Proto-Omega
                              fight this week. Like Icemage said earlier, if it works well, could have a lot of uses
                              in some big fights.


                              Chivalry: Convert TP to MP.
                              Maybe I like this because I am a Galka. I don't know. I do know that I have been
                              wanting to be able to do Spirit Taker with my Sword and Shield forever. Seems as
                              though this will let me do something close. I can use it in big fights, and it would
                              probably help me solo as a Paladin.


                              I like to take what tools I am given, and make use of them to be a good tank.
                              Can't wait to earn some merits, activate these, and try them out.

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                              • #30
                                Re: New PLD job ability/trait merits

                                Originally posted by Maju
                                Oh I don't know. I never run out of MP anyway. What limits my PT is killing speed, not my MP.
                                We're talking in context of level 75 Paladin using merits. You're generally not going to be XPing at that level except for merits, where you're likely not taking much anyway.

                                In HNM fights, MP is a Paladin's lifeblood, which is why most tank parties in HNM situations have both a Bard and a Red Mage to support the PLD tanks.


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