Defense and vit or hp and vit?

[Stooky]

Well, im a tarutaru, I will be hitting this problem to chose between higher vit and defense of the kampf gear at 29 or my wonder gear. With the Wonder gear and my warrior's belt +1 I will have +93 hp, and i still have ok defense and +11 vit. But then with the Kampf series gear, i will have much more defense and with stamina rings and warrior belt i will have +14 vit. I will be facing this problem soon deciding what to use. I will have my wonder gear left over from my warrior but is it the best thing for me? Expecialy since my low hp amount? Also I am wondering what to wear in my back and neck slot? I know i don't need to know know but i like to plan ahead.
Sincerly,
Stooky.

[Raydeus]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Well as far as my experience goes (only lvl 63 atm) you really only tank using 200-400hp from your total, and the rest is just your safety net in case of trouble.

So I think +vit and def will help you more than +HP unless you are fighting mobs that could one shot you with a special, but then again no one would fight those anyway even if they were Galka (downtime would kill you if you had to heal that much HP every fight).

[Aeolus]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Def and Vit cause with +14Vit you wont get crit hit as much so you dont need the extra HP to survive and with better Def you dont get hit for as much either. With extra Hp and Vit, sure you wont get crit hit as much but when you do it will be for alot more and so will the normal attacks you take.

[Stooky]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Ok, thanks ^^ I can sell my wonder gear as a pld and get the HQ kampf gear sinc eit cost about the same. Well, thats good to know! but, do you have any idea on what i should wear on my neck or back? I am guessing just some defense gear and vit if i can get it.

[Armando]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Def and Vit cause with +14Vit you wont get crit hit as much so you dont need the extra HP to survive and with better Def you dont get hit for as much either. With extra Hp and Vit, sure you wont get crit hit as much but when you do it will be for alot more and so will the normal attacks you take.

VIT has nothing to do with how often you take critical hits, that's AGI.

I've never been a Taru, but I'd say Defense and VIT, unless you're at extreme risk of being one-shotted (probably the best slots to devote to that cause would be earrings, equipping one or two Physical Earrings...but the loss of 50 MP isn't worth it if you ask me, that could've been two Cure IIs for 180 HP.) The problem with +HP in EXP is that as soon as you take that first hit, it stops doing anything for you.

Neck: Spike Necklace (swap out for Cures if they're still uncapped)
Back: Wolf Mantle +1

[bside]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Def and Vit cause with +14Vit you wont get crit hit as much so you dont need the extra HP to survive and with better Def you dont get hit for as much either. With extra Hp and Vit, sure you wont get crit hit as much but when you do it will be for alot more and so will the normal attacks you take.

it's AGI that reduces the chance of being hit critically, not VIT. that's why Elvaans get hit crit more than any other races due to our super-low AGI.

EDIT: nvm, Armando above me already said it


at that lvl, u don't have to be concerned much about VIT vs DEF things, but as w/ past examples ppl tend to prefer DEF over VIT regardles of race. while boosting VIT helps, boost of 14 won't mean much anyways; u'll need at least something like 30 to notice the difference.

btw, hate coming from normal attacks is a major source of hate for PLD's, especially if there's nobody to TA onto u, so don't undermine the accuracy and/or attack boosting equipments.

[Aeolus]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

I thought Agi just improved evasion and boosted rng atk? Anyway read up on a few more sites and Vit seems to decrease the dmg curve you can take. Like if its normally 70-160 adding a substantial amount of Vit will lower that curve to 60-140 so I'll stick with the original statement of Def and Vit even tho Vit doesnt reduce you crit hits, surely tho if it adds and extra 1 Def for every 2 Vit that it will reduce the dmg recieved from all physical attacks anyway.

[Icemage]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Really the only major one-shot threats at mid-levels are Pugils and Spiders. If you're not fighting those, DEF and VIT are the way to go. If you're fighting anything that has big attacks that can one shot (Pugil, Spider, Scorpion, Goobue, Weapons), it's probably wiser to stack +HP than a few extra DEF.


Icemage

[Windlorn]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

I've always thought a few def points go a long way when compared to hp, and it would take allot of hp to offset their value. As for vit, the more the better.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[EuphoricOni]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Def Def and more Def ... Then some more vit... Thats what has been working for me ... Of course you are taru and I'm galka as we have gotten at on another post Stooky... So I dunno if I said on that one physical earring will be useful if you can spare the gil 25 mp (nothin to taru lol) to hp sweet as hell!! And I just saw that on your sidebar you're 30 now ... I would say on back a merc mantle will be useful as well as the wolf mantle +1 ... Either enmity (subbing war of course) or the +3(i think? correct me if im wrong please) to elms. Thats pretty much it ...

Take care Mr.Stook and Good Luck!!

[Mrfrodo]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Definitely Def & Vit before the HP bonus of your RSE. As far as using a Physical earring, I never have, having that MP available for extra cure power at lower/mid levels does more for me IMO than a few more HP will. I will advise you NOT to sell your RSE gear however. It's a great set of EQ for several jobs that you are able to store, and will only get more expensive down the road when you want to level some other jobs or participate in various lvl cap events. It may not always be the most ideal set to use at times, but sometimes the convenience of free & storeable > than hitting the AH and spending gil for temporary usage.

[Stooky]

Re: Defense and vit or hp and vit?

Well thats good, thanks for the advice. well I will be starting my paladin this week so I i have any more questions or problems I will pos them here.
-Stooky