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  • Pld/blu?

    This may have come up before, but I'm new to this awesome site so {Please forgive me.}

    I've seen a few discussions in my LS about how effective BLU would be as a sub for PLD, i.e. Cocoon. The monster +def% is very nice, but what other BLU spells would help a PLD? How would the hate build routine go?

    If anyone has experience in trying out a BLU sub, please post how it effective it was and if you'd do it again. Lv.60+ exp would be nice, but any will do I guess.
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    Re: Pld/blu?

    Flash and other abilities will be able to build up hate eventually. But without the instant Provoke I don't think you'll be very efficient as main tank.

    Utsusemi is still superior to cocoon imo if you're going to solo.
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      Re: Pld/blu?

      If your staff skill is high enough, Auto-Refresh + Spirit Taker + Cocoon looks more economical than Utsusemi + Shihei. (May get just as good of a result with /RDM using Stoneskin and Phalanx, too.)

      (Yes, I'm cheap--why else would I even think about this with PLD only at Lv.29?)
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      yet not a mote of dust is stirred;
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      leaving no trace in the water.

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        Re: Pld/blu?

        My LS has talked about this a few times. For extended fights against enemies that do AoE, we think PLD/BLU may be superior to PLD/WAR. Coccoon, Pollen, Healing Breeze could all be very useful, especially if you have some THF or /THF Trick Attacking on you for hate spikes.

        EDIT: This only applies to HNM and other long battles. Not XP parties!


        Icemage

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        • #5
          Re: Pld/blu?

          Thanks a bunch guys ^.^ This is basically what I was thinking as well.
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          • #6
            Re: Pld/blu?

            Hmm, if a paladin was in a party with two thieves to SATA, that's a hate spike every 30 seconds.. they could sub anything and not lose the provoke advantage, right? My paladin is only lvl 30, so I haven't been sata'd on yet, is it as good as provoke?

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            • #7
              Re: Pld/blu?

              SATA is better than provoke if it goes off correctly and does a decent amount of damage. However, it generally only gets stuck on the PLD at the beginning of a battle because of two reasons:
              1. The mob is close to death, so it's ineffective to dump another SATA into it.
              2. It's really hard to take hate off the SATA target during a normal exp party situation, for another SATA.

              This being said, Provoke can be slightly better because you can just spam, as it is still 100% effective when the tank has hate.
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