Pld/smn

[Crode]

Has ne one had any exp with this combo. We already have white magic and SMN would give us alot more mp.

[DrivenTooFar]

Re: Pld/smn

I can't say that I've ever heard of anyone using this combo but it lacks a provoke type feature so I don't see it working in exp parties. I know your probably thinking that with more mp you can cast cure more and get more hate but what if you get interupted? There is no provoke to pull hate again. Plus summoning avatars would be pointless since you need that mp to try and hold hate. In the end it just isn't a pratical combo.

[neighbortaru]

Re: Pld/smn

and what, pray tell, would you use to hold hate with? think about it.

[UnnamedGalka]

Re: Pld/smn

SMN sub would give a substantial MP boost, and Auto-Refresh...

...but, it also offers the worst defense bonus of any subjob, and absolutely nothing in the way of hate retention. A PLD could never tank with a SMN sub.

[Jei]

Re: Pld/smn

you can't tank efficiently without provoke. so pld are pretty much stuck with /war.

[Tsikuro]

Re: Pld/smn

Not only that, but you'd end up losing a lot of HP, VIT, STR, DEF, etc. The trade-off for MP just wouldn't be worth it.

[Pyro Elf]

Re: Pld/smn

Better off with a pair of astral rings...

Though, if you can hold hate without voke well, /nin would be better for shadows me thinks.

[Darkages]

Re: Pld/smn

i think it would b good for soloing i use it with my taru pld currently at level 2 but i think it helps being a taru just that extra attack and if u get introble just use a bp

[neighbortaru]

Re: Pld/smn

lol Darkages, there are better subs for soloing. there's practically no use for /smn other than garbage collecting.

[Crode]

Re: Pld/smn

I should have mentioned that i was talking about soloing. Has any one tried it? Or do you think WHM would be better? I guess it's just all a matter of opinion. Summons to help fight at your side or the extra White maigc.

[neighbortaru]

Re: Pld/smn

I should have mentioned that i was talking about soloing. Has any one tried it? Or do you think WHM would be better? I guess it's just all a matter of opinion. Summons to help fight at your side or the extra White maigc.

half level summons won't help much, if at all.

if you are soloing for gil/items, use /thf.
if you are soloing for xp/skillup, use /nin.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Pld/smn

No

[JeanRC]

Re: Pld/smn

errrr i actually did a few times PLD/SMN in leveling party ;p
2 times in jp party that i form and 2 time in a ninja pt that the person invite me due to knowing that i have good mp gear.
my job as a PLD/SMN = cure cure cure cure and maybe blinkga once a while when my mp is max or almost max.
PLD/SMN will work if you got tons of mp gear and are higher level like 65 above.
i use pld/smn in level up pt at lv 68-72 range.
at Lv70 i am using serket ring, ether ring, fenrir touque, the 10mp throwing weapon,
rse human pants,rse human boots, rse human belt, rse human glove, royal cloak, the 30mp sub smn latent earring and the +10 lv 70 earring, the rare ex 25-30 convert hp to mp shield.
only my sword and mantle did not give me mp as nobody sell any or ah although there is a 20mp cape for pld but no stock always.
PLD/SMN with those eq i had at lv 70 has about 750-800+mp which compare to normal eq rdm or galk whm etc i sometimes have more mp then them and watch some taru blm rdm etc mp.
and beside having those mp i have +2 auto refresh from royal cloak and smn sub which make me have constant good mp.
and also i am able to take more hits then any mage if i get hate from curing too much.
and if i do get a lot of hate or someone need some protection. i could switch to my tank eq and use the cover ability to cover their ass lol.
Ok i am a multi purpose pld and i like it lol.
Because sometimes i cant find mages seeking pt and i saw tons of pld or ninja looking for parting, so i invite another tank and i sub smn. so PT group is something like this
Pld/smn, nin/war, blm/whm, rdm/blm, mnk/war, war/nin or whatever.
just that pld/smn is taking over whm job as sort of a main cure mage inside.
and i can tell you it work just as good as a whm beside not able to curega, erase, and remove those negative effect and regen. so those erase stuff u need to find a rdm or blm with whm sub to do it.
Adventage is if u have all those eq i had +2mp refresh, better defence then a whm, anytime if you did bring your tank eq when u get hate or anyone else u can save their ass with cover ability. when there is not enough mage seeking u can make a good pt instead of waiting for a mage to pop.
distadventage, no regen2-3, need a blm or rdm to sub whm to erase negative effect, no curega.

PLEASE TAKE NOTE IF YOU DONT HAVE A LOT OF MP EQ , PLD/SMN WILL NOT WORK WELL!!!
If you can get 700+ MP at lv 68+ and i think you are fine.
why so high level is because most mp gear for PLD are hard to find or expensive or higher level.

It work well because i try it and even the jp like it and also a ninja english who invite me back again another day as a pld/smn after trying it once

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Pld/smn

Honestly, a PLD is a tank, and their versatility ends there. PLDs aren't like RDMs in that they are moderate in their general abilities, thus, being able to sub something and aiding the party.

A PLD can't sub BLM and become backup nuker.

A PLD can't sub WHM and become backup healer.

A PLD can't sub SMN and become temperate PT buffer.

I used to be strict about RDMs, until I started talking to a fellow named, Hyrist, changed the way I think, cause RDM are versatile. PLD, no, PLD were made from the ground up to be TANKS, nothing else. Hence, all they should sub is WAR. PLZ, end this train of thought.

[JeanRC]

Re: Pld/smn

If you think of this, square make ninja not to be a tank but we people make it a tank.
And why not square make PLD to be a tank and i cant make it to be a healer when i have cure4 which blm dont and rdm best cure spell is cure4 too?
And i forgot something, beside a whm, i can get +15% cure with light staff and the 5% cure earring which is for PLD Onry. Thats make PLD cure more then blm and rdm.
Unless you are a whm with noble and light staff, you wount even cure more then a PLD.
Yes PLD are make to tank, but if you have the best eq in game to aid you like what i had,
your PLD can get 780+MP and +2mp refresh auto which is awesome to be a healer specially when there are not enough mage.
Its all about being flexible with the best eq to make use of the bad point of people seeking or in pt inorder to max out the ways to gain better exp.

Really, its all about eq, skills,thinking etc.
It may not work if you dont have the needed items.
Let me go post a picture of my PLD with 780+MP

Double Post Edited:
Here it goes take a look yourself.
Ok i am lv 74 Pld now so my mp increase a little.

first pic show my pld tank eq.
2nd is pld/smn mp and eq etc
3rd is to show that i did not even eat any mp food to go pass 800mp mark.