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    I've been leveling Paladin mainly to play a major role in CoP missions, but for a second there I was starting to have fun with it. That second was from level 30 to 48, but I leveled so quickly it really did seem like a second. Anyways, I've hit some sort of slump where I no longer look forward to leveling it and I only need one more level to continue with the 50 cap missions.

    I have a lot of trouble playing a job that is entirely TOO dependant on every other job in the party. I have to pay a lot more attention to what's going on now and what I see really starts to bother me. The melee are often too weak and I find we spend way too much time on each monster, which in turn drains my MP more than it should. The white mage cures erratically and sometimes nuke cures like it's do or die and draws hate. Drawing hate off me feels like somebody has my balls in a vice grip, like my manhood was stolen from me! Red Mages often have their enfeebles resisted, their nukes resisted, and don't refresh efficiently leaving me with no MP to heal and hold hate with. Black mages are arrogant and will too often nuke as fast as they can from start to finish causing me work harder with Flash and other job abilities and spells to hold hate. I shouldn't have to use shield bash to pull hate off the black mage when I could use it to stun something important.

    As I level Dragoon I don't feel dependant on anybody. I feel more like it's my obligation to do as much damage as I can while skimming on the line where I'd pull hate. It's hard for me to pull hate in the first place when our spike damage is lacking. When I'm not doing enough damage it seems like the entire party suffers.

    Did anybody else get into a slump like this? I feel like people depend on me to keep a party going smoothly but the party ISN'T going smoothly because nobody is putting in enough effort. My ability to fill my role extrordinairily was always my drive to play, and now I can't perform to my maximum. >_< I can't even form my own party and have some guaruntee I'm not inviting complete boneheads. =/

  • #2
    Re: Slump

    Gee... Welcome to Paladin. For the most part we are all whiney babies. I don't know how much I bitch on TeamSpeak when the PT isn't doing what thier supposed to.

    My best advice to you is... Have fun with it. If the blm overnukes... dont cover him. let his ass die. Yeah, he'll be pissed, but I bet he wont overnuke anymore... If the WHM isnt healing and your MP is low. Take a fall. Bet that WHM will start curing more often. Sometimes it takes drastic measures to get things to work right. And the best part is, these people will always remember that, they arent going to go back to overnuking and not healing in thier next pt...

    But I love my job, wouldn't have it any other way for sky/HNM. I love having the whole party depend on me... Instead of doing a job whee all I have to do is swing a weapon and do some Weaponskills.

    Hope that helped.

    PLD75| BLM42| WAR37| DRK30| THF25| WHM25| NIN22| MNK20| BST10|

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    • #3
      Re: Slump

      yeah, pld isnt exactly a easy like being a melee DD, you have to stay alert and aware of the timers on your job abilities, spells, etc.you also have to depend on the RDM and WHM alot, from my experienc jumping from 2 melee dd jobs to a tank wasnt easy, i thought i couldnt do it, but lv60-75 as pld is fun as hell imo.under that it isnt too fun.
      In the moonlight, your face it glows.. like a thousand diamonds, I suppose.
      And your hair flows like.. The ocean breeze...
      Not a million fights could make me hate you, you’re invincible.
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      • #4
        Re: Slump

        Tarudin here ^^ I pld job, it's my first non mage that I've taken past 70. It's very true that PLD depends on other jobs in the pty a lot, but then again the PT is also very dependent on the PLD. It's a two way street, and thats where teamwork comes in.

        I got into a bad bad badd slump around 65-70s, very very bad slump. I felt like I couldnt tank well enough for anything, so depressing. It was all mostly in my head though ^^ coz I had done everything I can think of as a tank, and wanted to do more and didnt understand the limitations of the game's engines for the PLD job, wanted to push it more than the game is capable of doing.

        I took a break from game coz I had to work about 60hrs a week for like 2 months, then when I came back, I had no clue what the heck I was worried about in the first place. You'll tank as well as you are allowed to with the tools you have, the rest the pty has to realize it's team work. There is no "I" in team, and if they dont see that, well then they can just face K.O, nothing you can do about it if that's the worst case.

        I think take a bit of a break, go back to drg and then go back to pld and switch back and forth might help you get over the slump ^^ Hope that helps!
        ~Aquelia
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        • #5
          Re: Slump

          One of the reasons why you said you hated it seems to be why I love it. I have my filters perfectly set up for exp configurations so that I know what everyone is doing and how to adjust to the situation. That is the beauty of my playstyle and what makes me so good (yes I am a cocky PLD). I go agree that it takes a lot more attention to detail than other jobs except for maybe RDM and NIN.

          Who knows, maybe you really are in a slump. In that case you can either quit, take a break, or exp grind which is what I did. About lvl 57 I stoped for about a month because I had gotten horrible PTs lately and was hating my job. I came back after a month to exp again and the PTs were great. I even PTed with the future leader of my HNM LS and was invited to at that PT session.

          And Serantos, you made a very good my man. Often times you need to teach the PT a little lesson if they won't listen to you - ie: noobish BLMs who spam their nukes. Let them take a few hits and see how it feels to get 2 shotted.

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          • #6
            Re: Slump

            If the WHM isnt healing and your MP is low. Take a fall.
            that's an ouchie.
            There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
            but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
            transform a yellow spot into the sun.

            - Pablo Picasso

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            • #7
              Re: Slump

              Yes, taking a fall is an ouchie. As a Dragoon I'm usually the last one to die, and I can play my cards so it looks like I did everything I could to save the mages or take a few hits for other melee, but what I'm really doing is saving my own arse and making it for a zone when the time is right.

              Now I have to die for people to see something's not right? >_< I guess it comes with the territory.

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              • #8
                Re: Slump

                Well, unlike DD's, the tank is the first one to die >.>, after that, all hell breaks loose >.>
                -Baka Inu!
                Nejiko - Mithra Current: [ 70 THF / 35 NIN ]
                Basic Jobs: [ 70 THF / 20 MNK / 11 WHM / 18 BLM / 22WAR / 05 RDM]
                Advance Jobs: [ 04 BST / 37 NIN / 02 SMN / 05RNG / 07 SAM / 07 PLD / 00 DRK / 31 BRD / 00 DRG]
                Aht Jobs: [07 COR / 00 BLU / 00 PUP]

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                • #9
                  Re: Slump

                  Well, I'll be the first to say, somethings you just cant stop. Get to 65+ with a MNK in your pt. It's almost freaking impossible to keep hate off of them... Those are about the only people I will cover. Because they arent doing anything but attacking, and they pull just insane hate.

                  To clarify the whole taking a fall, thats a last resort, you've asked your WHM multiple times to heal more often, and thier not, because they are LAZY NINJA LOVING BASTARDS!

                  That was the devil, I'm sorry.

                  But anyway, if I have asked repeatedly and its not happening... Sometimes I will die, then leave the PT to deal with a pissed off mob.

                  And you know who everyone is going to yell at? Not the PLD, they will be like "WHM, wtf, why weren't you healing the tank?" Then said WHM will more than likely perform better.

                  But it's just how things have to be done sometimes, its all situational, like say your BLM MB's for like 1500 DMG... that's not his fualt, he's doing his job, there's a difference between a damn good MB and an overnuking ass. So that BLM gets the cover.

                  But, its not usually like that, I'm usually always willing to die for the sake of my party, I would rather me die, then for my party to die and lose massive XP. You just gotta suck it up.

                  Now that I'm in sky and killing gods, I die a lot more while fighting them. And most of the time you have to take a Raise 2, which sucks, but get up and get healed and get back in.

                  Botom line, PLD isn't really about you, it's about your party and the overall goal, do WHATEVER you have to do to see that the goal is met.

                  PLD75| BLM42| WAR37| DRK30| THF25| WHM25| NIN22| MNK20| BST10|

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                  • #10
                    Re: Slump

                    The world is so dark and untamed. Paladin is the light.
                    There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
                    but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
                    transform a yellow spot into the sun.

                    - Pablo Picasso

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                    • #11
                      Re: Slump

                      Spotlight's on the floor. -_-

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                      • #12
                        Re: Slump

                        Well, like what Serantos said, welcome to the world of the PLD's. The unfortunate part is that, we're too dependant on refreshers and what not, that it ends up hurting us in many ways possible. Having no refresh means bigger down time. Bigger down time means less chains. And less chains means less and less exp. Parties don't like seeing 2k an hour. They like seeing the 3-5k range (or better yet, chaining up til 18). Perhaps cause the higher we go, the more exp we need. So, getting up to 75 for everyone is important. I never have gotten a party without a refresher. The 1 time I did, I pretty much spent 50k (no joke) on juice ingredients just to keep the chain up to 4-5. But that was when I was level 53. I don't think I can pull that one off nowadays.

                        JP

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                        • #13
                          Re: Slump

                          im iin the slump, its my vacation and nothing to build a pt atm.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Slump

                            Originally posted by Weeeekujata
                            im iin the slump, its my vacation and nothing to build a pt atm.
                            That sucks bro T_T. I can't even play on my vacation to be honest. My LS has been doing so much crap that I kept joining them that my only time to really get a pt is when there's a free day (which is rare T_T), that's why I'm still 73 /cry.

                            JP

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                            75 ナイト, 37 戦士, 31 忍者, 18 シーフ, 16 モンク, 8 侍, others: level 1 T_T.
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