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  • Yonin and Innin

    With the July 20th Update passed, This is for those who have been playing around with this new set of Job Abilities for Ninja. Here's what I've observed both in-game and browsing on several forums:

    Yonin
    - Enmity Increase seems to be approximately +30
    - Evasion Increase looks to be pretty noticeable, especially soloing without Signet bonus on Easy Prey
    - Accuracy Decrease said to be -30
    - Enemy Critical Hit Rate Reduction? Assuming as much as Innin's Critical Hit Rate Increase for now
    - Ninja Tool Expertise reported to activate 100% [July 22nd: This is now a currently known issue]

    Innin
    - Accuracy Increase sounds like +30, judging from Yonin ACC Decrease
    - Critical Hit Rate Bonus is +30%. Pretty big, this coming from a Senju/Perdu user
    - Elemental Ninjutsu MAB looks to be 30%: small tests in this post with Doton
    - Enmity decrease is -10

    30 seems to be the general number for the increases and decreases. Feel free to share more observations.
    Last edited by Electricity Gone Human; 07-22-2009, 12:12 PM.

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    Re: Yonin and Innin

    That's pretty goddamned epic.

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    • #3
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      Those do look fairly good. I was just looking on the wiki and says that with Yonnin, the Tools expertise is 100%... Thats gonna save people tons of money. Maybe it will help people actually use more of the nins tools, and help hold hate better.

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      • #4
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        Those are pretty amazing, I guess we should have realized it would pan out that well. I mean,

        I pretty much don't do shit; 'namis, salvage, nyzul, merit, etc. without composure up.

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        • #5
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          100%? Does that mean you don't use tools at all?

          +30 Enmity, +30% crit and +30% MAB are all ridiculously huge bonuses. Wow.
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          • #6
            Re: Yonin and Innin

            That is what I am thinking. no tools at all. lol

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            • #7
              Re: Yonin and Innin

              Yep, tested this out last night in Nyzul. 100% Ninja Tool Exprt. proc rate. I kept Yonin up and didn't spend a SINGLE tool whether it was utsu, enfeebles, or nuking tools. Switched to Innin and my damage started going through the roof as well. Loved it =D
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              • #8
                Re: Yonin and Innin

                According to some posts on Alla the GMs are saying the 100% is unintentional. However, this maintenance didn't fix the issue, rather the vendor buying rate for curry buns so expect another "emergency" maintenance tomorrow.

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                • #9
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                  That's why I'm spam leveling Nin now >.> 64 and climbing! Probably already saved close to 100k in tools with Yonin.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Yonin and Innin

                    Looks like SE's on top of Yonin's NTE.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Yonin and Innin

                      Quick, someone NIN/BLM with HQ staves and Innin up with San spells >.>b

                      EDIT: Edited for grammatical error
                      Last edited by Malacite; 07-24-2009, 10:55 AM.
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                      • #12
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                        ^^ I think you mean NIN/BLM, since BLM/NIN would get neither San spells, nor Innin. But if you're already getting Innin MAB, is BLM's MAB going to add that much? (Or even stack at all?)

                        Yes, 100% ninja tool expertise Yonin is confirmed as a bug. But given the huge sizes of the other benefits they might still fix it to something like 1/3, which would be pretty impressive.
                        Defeated: Maat, Divine Might, Fenrir, Kirin, Cactrot Rapido, Xolotl, Diabolos Prime, Kurrea, 9/10 Dynamis Bosses (missing Tav), Promathia, Proto-Ultima, Proto-Omega, 4 Jailers, Apocalypse Nigh, 6/6 Nyzul Bosses
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                        • #13
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                          Haha, all the people spamming the shit out of leveling NIN while they can do it cheaply. I rode that wave on the initial 2h update for DRK, when it was overpowered for like two days. I don't blame people for taking advantage.
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                          • #14
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                            Poor THF. His only meaning in life has now been flushed down the toilet. And poor PLD, he will now be pushed to the back of the line. It's 2004-6 all over again. lollerskates

                            I'd still invite both jobs to my parties, but I'm just wondering about the "others."
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                            • #15
                              Re: Yonin and Innin

                              Originally posted by ShadowHolyFlyingDragon View Post
                              Poor THF. His only meaning in life has now been flushed down the toilet. And poor PLD, he will now be pushed to the back of the line. It's 2004-6 all over again. lollerskates

                              I'd still invite both jobs to my parties, but I'm just wondering about the "others."
                              This wont stop me from leveling Drk, and Rdm, and Thf. Hell, I make my own parties out of what ever jobs that will works. Screw what others will want to say. A Dnc cant tank? A Blu cant heal? Eff them. They work just fine when I do it in my own parties.

                              But I don't care what anyone will say about this though. Paladin still THE best tank in game no matter what anyone says.

                              Ninja was just made a better "tank" and a better "DD". They where really neither or until this update. Atleast with this update, you can have both with a nin! Hell. I'd invite both a nin and Pld. Nin to DD until the Pld is out of Mp, or is taking to many hard hits, then the nin tanks for a bit till the Pld has recovered.

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