Question about Ninja

[HeavenlyEvil]

Have no info about Ninja, Ninjistu, whatever except their Passive and Active Abilities (also strange that Ninja have the less number of Abilities, compare to other class)

Can someone pls give more info about Ninja class ?

Thanks

[Jei]

job :p not class. don't use EQ teerms here

Ninja overall might not be so good. Many of my friend played Ninja and most of them said they were dissappointed because Ninja is so weak.
(duel wield but all hits are zero damage to totetote, something like that)

Highest DEX. Even higher than THF. But quite low HP and not very good STR.

Weak WS.

No useful ability.

Upping Ninjitsu skill need lots of money.

... anyway i'll try level my ninja to level 15-20 after my school breaks and see how the job is like by myself.

[Kosh]

I almost think the Ninja job is MEANT to be a sub job. Especially because there are only three innate abilities and you will have them by level 10. As the last post stated, there are several problems with the ninja. However, as a sub to any fighter class (sorry fighter job sounds too weird, lol) the ninja seems really good. First and foremost, ninja is the only job that allows dual wield. Imagine your warrior with a weapon in each hand... and you know the warrior will be hitting for some damage. Also, a ninja sub will allow fighter classes to use ninja magic.

I should add that a benefit of the ninja as a main is the special 2 hour ability. It seems like a great one. Imagine every time you are about to die, you can push a button that will send you back to your home point without losing experience. If you died you'd be sent back to your home point anyway, so you might as well self destruct and save the experience. To me, this is the only benefit to having a ninja as a main job.

[HeavenlyEvil]

OK, so how about Ninjitsu, how to get them ? How to use them ? Why are they expensive ?

[Jei]

ninjitsu you need to kill enemy for drop or buy them

once you learn the ninjitsu and wat to use it, you will need an item that looks like a red bag. which can cost up to 500 gil each.

[Robert_clash]

sweet so what your saying is that with the dual wield you can use two swords on your primary job with your sub job ninja right and also it might not be such a good primary job but i'm sure they will put new abilitys on it when they do there annual upgrades don't you think ?

[Kosh]

Well let me just clarify this... the ninja sub job allows you to hold two WEAPONS, not necessarily two SWORDS. It depends on your primary job. If your primary job is a warrior than yes, you can hold two swords. If your primary job is a black mage, than no, you can't hold two swords (since black mages don't use swords). You can only hold two of the weapon the primary job can normally use. Also, you can't hold two two-handed weapons.

Hope this helps.

[Vivid]

jei, im liking ninja. it's true that damage i do is basically crap compared to the other folks... but.... well, i take that back. i do more damage than others(sometimes). it works like this, i sub thf... so im a nin/thf i hit a lot thanks to my speed, and also my vit is super high which means i hit quick and i hit on target. my strength is about the same as my dex. both have been equal from lvl 1 basically. the only thing that i don't like is ninjutsu. too damn expensive. try it, you'll like ninja~ ^^ plus it's good sub for ur rdm.... i guess...

vivid~

[Semih Neridia]

Viv, you got it all wrong.

You hit quick <---that's from your weapon delay, and trust me, ninja doesn't hit quick if dual wield. The delay of both weapon added up, make you hit about the same speed as monk.

Your VIT is super high <---uhhh, you mean DEX? yeah, ninja has high DEX, don't missed that much, but has nothing to do with hit quick, lol.

Ninja doesn't hit that high of damage though. Even if added up dual wield damage, the damage is still lower than dragoon 1 attack.

[Sagus]

But if I have ninja as a sub, and dual-wield with a warrior, I'm going to be doing a substantial amount of damage, ne?

[Keji]

Ok what is ninjitsu exactly? Is it a spell, a skill, or an item you can use to attack or something???? All i know is that you learn it from a scroll (expensive) then you buy a "red bag". What exactly do you do with this "red bag" and can you become beter using ninjitsu if you get a higher lvl scroll?

[Calilove]

You hit quick <---that's from your weapon delay, and trust me, ninja doesn't hit quick if dual wield. The delay of both weapon added up, make you hit about the same speed as monk.

Yeah, but monks hit rate is the best in the game at this point right? So that's darn good to be hitting at that rate with a non-grapple weapon. Theoretically, if you had two daggers (which I beleive have fairly low delay) won't you be hittin quite fast?

Also, they must build TP really fast like the monk. Compound this with the fact that you can equip two different weapons, giving you two different sets of TPs to chose from for combos, and I think you've discovered what the ninja really brings to the table.

Vivid- do you find that your TP build really fast as a ninja?

[MogFFXIGamer]

lol....
First off, ninjas don't get MP - They use ninjutsu bags.
having ninja lv10 and subbing it with something like a lv20+ warrior will allow you to use two 1handed weapons as discussed in Extreme's topic.. you get absolutly no benifits from dual weilding.. it just looks cool (only 'good' thing from dual weilding is being able to level up 2 different weapons, as said before in another topic, and having a weaponx2 that gives bonus to stats) .. and i dont know where you get monk has the best hit rate / TP building ability.. lol, sounds like you have never played the game

When using two weapons you only get to use the WS abilities of the weapon in your first hand.

2 daggers with 200 delay each, 7D =400 delay with 14 damage
you could use a scythe for almost the same speed and deal wa~~y more damage

(edited to add a few things.. and correct a few things.. /brain fried.. just got back from taking 2 exams )

[Calilove]

Originally posted by MogFFXIGamer
i dont know where you get monk has the best hit rate / TP building ability.. lol, sounds like you have never played the game

DON'T LOL ME BUSTER! :mad: I PLAYED AT E3! :mad: I WAS LEVEL 60! I'M 00B3R L337!!! Oh well, I guess I just have to stick with reading forums and watching livecam! :sweat:

Hehe, JK... What I mean about monks getting more tp is that monks have all those passive abilities which increase their rate of hit with grapple, doesn't this equate to faster TP building? Also (dunno if this part is true) they hit two fists with each grapple attack, you'd think this gives more TP... isn't this the case?

Even leveling two weapons at once thing which seems cool isn't really, cause you're leveling them at half the rate! ArgH!:mad: I think they need to 'fix' the ninja, it has potential to be a dope sub, but now its on SUCK MODE. Dag... Thanks for your answers on both of these ninja posts though! (you know I'm JK with all the angry faces!)

[Nico Silius]

Hmm, I've heard this is true and I'm looking for confirmation: that if you sub ninja and use grapple weapons, you hit 3 times instead of twice due to dual-wield. Is this true, and is hitting 3 times with DW really any better than hitting tiwice without DW?

Thanks in advance.