I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

[Amaku]

I don't have anything fancy like O Kote, sniper rings, jujitsu gi, emperor hairpin or fuma kyahan but I have all of my ninjutsu and I can keep the hate rather well. Will I be kicked from my parties the moment I join and they see my gear? I mean, most of that stuff is either incredibly expensive or very time consuming(Camping). If I could afford it, I'd buy it, but it's either Ninja Tools or Gear and I'm kind of leaning towards Ninja Tools.

tl;dr
with crappy gear and decent skill will I still get parties?

EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm level 42.

[Feba]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Probably not. If you can tank, and people can't find anyone else, you might be in luck.

But seriously, you don't need to have super amazing gear, but if you're poorly and crappily geared by your own definition, make some money. If Ninja Tools take up so much money that you can't afford to play the rest of your job correctly, consider switching jobs, at least until you can afford it.

[Aksannyi]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Because of the rarity of tanks these days - especially at that level - you will find that people are not very picky. This can be good in some ways, but also very bad. It wouldn't hurt for you to take a few weeks off leveling to try to get some of the better gear out there. I don't expect you to have HQ shit, I just like to see people with appropriate gear for their job and level. That means no MP rings on a WAR for example, and not level 10 crap on a level 50 character.

[Amaku]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

I use full royal squires set, 2 Alacrity Ring+1's, 2 Dodge Earrings, Warrior's Belt +1, Spike necklace, Nomad's mantle and Anju + Zushio. It's not horrible but it's not very good.

[Sevv]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Honestly when you can camp fumas, you also should invest in a High Breathh Mantle.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Honestly when you can camp fumas, you also should invest in a High Breathh Mantle.

Might have changed some but I can't recall there being much other haste gear at that level which complements the fuma. There are better alternatives until more haste gear presents itself.

[Sabaron]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

You could spend a day acquiring Shikaree Ring. A fun activity is to do it at the same time as you do your RSE when it comes up in Ordelle's Caves. Farming Shikaree is relatively easy and takes about 50 or so kills to find. Spirit Torque when you get to that level. Don't skip the Scorpion Harness. They've been coming down in price, but I think you'll really want to get one when you get up to that level.

[LadyKiKi]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

3% haste sucks at -that- level if that's all you can get. Remember, haste effect is only good if you can stack lots of it together.

Don't worry about not having the absolute best gear. We're only human, afterall. Just as long as you have reasonable gear in such slots I think you're fine. At least show you've made an effort.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Probably not. If you can tank, and people can't find anyone else, you might be in luck.

But seriously, you don't need to have super amazing gear, but if you're poorly and crappily geared by your own definition, make some money. If Ninja Tools take up so much money that you can't afford to play the rest of your job correctly, consider switching jobs, at least until you can afford it.

Protip for Feba: If you haven't played the game in, oh, two expansions, its time to stop hitting the reply button. Seriously, you can't even give sound advice regarding gear because you don't really know what's out there now. Anyone could have dished out that general statement.

Protip for OP: Your post wasn't too long, anyone who wouldn't take the time to read it is an idiot, so no need to give them the excuse by giving them the short version.

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OK, if you can't afford something fancy like sniper rings, I'm gonna toss you two bones from the CoP expansion and a third from WotG. The catch is one piece of gear requires Site Riverne #0A1 access.

Carmine Dobsonfly NMs in Site Riverne #0A1 drop (40 cap zone) the Jaguar Ring (level 40, +4 accuracy), R/E ring that's totally free. Catch is there's ten of these flies that spawn once every 24 hours. They all link, but they all have drops too, so bring a bunch of friends, preferable 10 people at least. There's also the Voyager Sallet (level 40 +4 STR +4 DEX) and a +evasion piece that drops from these NMs.

There's a Rabao quest for a ring called Venrer's Ring (level 30 +3 accuracy), to complete the quest "Chasing Dreams" you must have Lufaise Meadows access (meaning, you have to beat all three initial promys).

There's a new NM in East Ronfrare (S) called Skogs Fru. Drops a ring called Ecphoria Ring (Level 49, +4 accuracy, Store TP +1). If NIN is your highest, you may need some higher level friends to camp this one at least a couple people 65+ to take it down. People also camp the hell out of this NM, so the price on the AH for this ring is dropping fast on most servers since the NM pops just about every hour.

So that takes care of rings. Level 50 there's this nifty item called a Swift Belt (+4% Haste) Sacrarium access required, CoP 4-3, 50 cap zone). I'm not going into the details here, but its drops from poppable Fomor mobs and the pop item drops from Tarus-type mobs in CoP zones such as Phomina Aquaducts and Sacrarium. Bring a THF for Swift Belt fight, the drop rate is not 100%.

So there's some stuff that's real cheap or practically free to get if you've put some progress into missions.

As for the rest, just take your time with the job. There's no rush to get to 75 and there's lots of ground to cover before getting there. As Aksaynni told you, its not about have HQ gear out the wazoo, but adequate gear for your level. If you can spare the time to get the good gear or make the mission progress to get it, please do so.

[Feba]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

two expansions,

hi, learn to count.

Seriously, you can't even give sound advice regarding gear

Point out where I tried to give specific advice about modern gear. Unless you think that people should go out in gear that, again by their own definition, is poor and crappy, and shove that on an EXP party.

EDIT: expanding on that, here's a short explanation of why your gear being bad hurts your party:

- With good gear, you'd do more damage. In addition to helping kill the monster, that extra damage will help you keep hate.
- With good gear, you'd evade more. This makes it so you can make your shihei last a bit longer, and hopefully not have to be living from one recast timer to the next. It also decreases your risk of being hit while recasting, which saves MP for your healer

Using bad gear as a tank doesn't just affect you, it affects the entire party. You need more heals, which uses MP, DDs can't do as much damage without taking hate, so they have to slow down fights; both of those things will reduce exp/hr for everyone.

[Celeal]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

To OP:

When my NIN was at your level back in the days (the RMT days), I was in a similar situation: tank with *average* gear, but spam ninja tools to made up for it. It worked great --- very good exp/hour ---- until elemental wheel is not effective at level 60+. Eventually, I had *upgrade* my gear, but it kinda sux because the gil burned on elemental wheel (gil burned ~ gone) could had spent on better gear (can be resell).

If I have to level up NIN from level 1 again, I would invest gear as higher priority. Because in long run, it actually save gil and help performing the job easiler.

[Mog]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Do you have another job at 75 or is this the first job you're leveling up?

You need to realize that ninja is the most expensive job in this game, as far as I know. As with the other melee jobs, it's a good idea to camp on the side of parties, unless you want people to criticize your gear in parties. The empress hairpin is especially nice to have. And almost all of the other gear you mention can be camped, not bought.

So it's really up to you. You can work on camping gear on the side, or have sub-par gear at your levels.

[Raitox]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Corsair is the most expensive, by far.

[Armando]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

3% haste sucks at -that- level if that's all you can get. Remember, haste effect is only good if you can stack lots of it together.

3% at that level is far from sucky. Much better than anything else you could put on your feet at that point. It's not necessarily worth the money you'd have to pay for it, or how long it would take to camp and get it, but that's something else entirely.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: I'm poorly geared, but I believe I do my job well and I can afford my tools.

Even crappy players with crappy gear who do a crappy job tend to keep their place in a party... if the party can't find anyone else to fill that role.

I had someone in my LS who was complaining non stop about her party. First she complained about the puller, then she complained about the mages, then she complained about the DDs. Basically, she complained about all 5 of the other party members. And she was continually complaining about them.

Maybe it's just me, but if I felt like the other 5 people in my party were just downright terrible players, I'd leave the party. But that doesn't seem to be the case with most players. They're so sick of LFGing that they'll stick with any dysfunctional party and put up with any amount of poor play if it will avoid down time (that is, not exp'ing at all while looking for a replacement).