Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

[Omni]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

People are retarded.

I think this alone, is most accurate.

[hongman]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

The only time I toss haste to other melee is if I have someone helping me cure (which means then, an additonal Refresh).

If I have a WHM in the party, I can normally spilt haste duties to help (2 each or something).

If something bad happens and I spend mor MP than usual, Haste on other melees is the first to be cut back on.

And I think this is the general concensus across the board, if it isnt, tough I'm not changing xD

[Omni]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

u must haste everyone, rdm. EVERYONE.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

u must haste everyone, rdm. EVERYONE.

Except for Omni.

He can rely on his gimp gear

/shiftyeyes

[Nuriko]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

u must haste everyone, rdm. EVERYONE.

I hope you'll make an exception for RNG...

[Omni]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

Except for Omni.
He can rely on his gimp gear
/shiftyeyes

/em slugshots Wiskmaster1k.

I love my gimp gear, thank you very much. It's well, so gimpy.

And I'm an og nin. Evasion gear build ftw.

[hongman]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

Funny, I actuaklly had a meripo last night where this thread popped into my head.

Setup was RDM (me) SMN WAR WAR NIN RNG @ Mamool Ja.

I was the only heal as the SMN was busy doing Predator Claws at every chance (lol @ 58 PC...) Hastega DD, also eventually Earthen Ward after I asked.

One WAR dropped and another WAR replaced, first thing I get is "Haste Can I have it?" - 10s later same thing...

So I said "I cast Haste on Tank only, DD are getting Hastega when its ready"

WAR: "Haste please"

ME: "FFS STFU"(given, I dont normally bite, but I was annoyed)

SMN: "Ill use Hastega when the timer is up!"

NIN: "Baut just haste the fuckin WAR and not me so I dont have to listen to that all party long" (lol!)

War disbands.

Phew, thank god for that.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

Yeah the WAR disbanded like he was so requested for.

I'm guilty of catering to the jobs I love, and I tell the mages if they're doing phenominal jobs.

But this WHM I had the other day... I swear he only had the necessary Cure spells to his name. No Erase. No Haste. No Poisona.

God, I hated him, and I made it painfully obvious that I didn't care too much for him, because me and the RDM were holding it down.

I wish I woulda taken the chance to BList his lvl-8gear-in-Crawler's-Nest-on-Soldier-Crawlers-havin behind, but I was preoccupied crying after the RDM said he needed to disband.

[hongman]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

lvl-8gear-in-Crawler's-Nest-on-Soldier-Crawlers-havin behind

lol...

[Keon]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

My string of exp pt with retarded mages ended last night! We camped in Quicksand Caves, eastern zone entrance, and pulled Beetles/Spiders. I didn't even have to ask last for haste OR erase. The DD melee's never complained about not getting haste or beg for it. Having my Ni back at 36 sec recast is very nice indeed, it is about frickin' time.

[Taskmage]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

That is what I meant as well. Perhaps the ratio it reduces is altered while weakened so you wouldn't notice lower recast spells, but I know that for Raise III it does make a difference, and fairly certain that it does effect Utsusemi.
I'll reconfirm when I get home tonight.

I had the opportunity to test this explicitly the other night while recovering from a wipe. I cast Haste, then Refresh. Recast on Refresh was 28 seconds. Then I canceled Haste and cast Refresh again. Recast was 28 seconds again. The Haste spell does not affect recast timers while weakened.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

My Refresh is usually in the 40s when I'm weakened.

Or I might be mistaken.. Maybe different Raises have different penalties?

[Taskmage]

Re: Haste (Can I have it?) (Can you hear me?)

I did get an R3, but my understanding is that normal weakness gives a flat +100% slow effect regardles of the raise used. I did have Duelist's Tabard and Warlock's Chapeau on at the time, though I wouldn't have expected them to knock off a whole 12 seconds of recast by themselves.

The wiki lists a recast time on Refresh of 18 seconds. Taking that to be true, if base recast * fast cast mods * weakness effect = recast time while weakened, then

18 seconds * (100% - 20%) * (100% +100%) = 28.8 seconds

which the display probably truncated to 28. Seems to work out.