Can nins weapons for dual wield be gimped?

[Taruking]

can nins weapons for dual wield be gimped??? like can i have a lvl 7 katana and a lvl 1 kunai...would that be considered gimped?

[Taskmage]

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Yeah, that would be rather gimp. Especially early on, ninjas don't have a lot of tools for keeping hate, and as a taru you're going to be having a hard time making respectable numbers, so you really want to have the highest damage weapons you can afford at all times.

[Atma]

Re: Can nins weapons for dual wield be gimped?

can nins weapons for dual wield be gimped??? like can i have a lvl 7 katana and a lvl 1 kunai...would that be considered gimped?

Uh, Yes?

Having underlevelled equipment is always bad, the fact you can wield two swords doesn't change anything.

[Taruking]

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thoses r the highest weapons i can afford be cuz i spent it all on riding the choccobo on Odin today they were charging 2-10K a ride!!!...but that is consider gimped ok thx and how do i quest for Utsumi

[Taskmage]

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Utsusemi quest

[Taruking]

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thx

[Jei]

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hmm ninja will cost you a whole lot more
Maybe you should try to make money for a bit before you attempt ninja. It's a costly job.

[Taskmage]

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Yeah, I don't know what the economy is like on Odin, but tanking as ninja tends to cost 20k-40k a party. If you can't afford to keep your weapons up to date then you probably can't afford to play the job.

[Taruking]

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ok thx i have been making good gil since i been farming with nin today so im about up to 20k!!!! but i think i can handle the job

[Tirrock]

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Is it wrong to say that I find that above statement cute?

...Anyway. I'm sure that if you actually try, you can play NIN as your first job past 30 and still be good at it. It won't be easy, and you will run out of money (and fast). Let's put it this way... At the moment, I have about 2000k (which isn't even much considering how long I've been level 70+...), and I don't want to level my NIN right now because of the price. Especially from the level 37 road-block (utsusemi:ni).

[Aeni]

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Is it wrong to say that I find that above statement cute?

No, I found that cute too :p I remember a time ... when I thought the same way. Back in beta, it was like ... oh shoot! I have 25K in my wallet now! wewt score!! XD

...Anyway. I'm sure that if you actually try, you can play NIN as your first job past 30 and still be good at it. It won't be easy, and you will run out of money (and fast). Let's put it this way... At the moment, I have about 2000k (which isn't even much considering how long I've been level 70+...), and I don't want to level my NIN right now because of the price. Especially from the level 37 road-block (utsusemi:ni).

There was a NIN that barely was able to buy tools and keep equipment to date. Sometimes his PT would end early if he ends up spamming large amounts of tools since he couldn't afford anymore.

He struggled like this for many weeks. Weeks turned to months, but I remember listening to stories about him. How other players would laugh at him, called him a nub, etc. But then the players that actually partied with him said that he played better than some players who've had 5 jobs at 75 and 100 million gil in the bank.

Then I remember seeing him recently in a high level event. People were saluting him as he went by and there were more than one person who was saying that they wanted to be *just like him.* I think that's just so awesome to see someone who would ignore all the negativity around him and work his ass off in the game and without shame of not having all the HQ versions of equipment or an O.Kote, etc. I wish more players were like him instead of breaking down and running up their CC on IGE...

[Caspian]

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No, I found that cute too :p I remember a time ... when I thought the same way. Back in beta, it was like ... oh shoot! I have 25K in my wallet now! wewt score!! XD

Lol. I remember when I lvl'd WAR to 10, then switched to THF b/c that was going to be my main. I sold some of my WAR equipment, and had like 10k. I remember telling a friend in game that I had 10k and that I would be set for a while.
Yeah.....until THF hit like lvl 10 and I had to buy all new equipment for him.
What sucks is I didn't even know about Signet and crystals until I was halfway through the soloing levels on THF.

Is O. kote even considered necessary or even near necessary for nin's? I figured, given the -evasion on it, that people would be split on if it should even be used or not with a tanking ninja.

[Tirrock]

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I personally don't expect an o. kote. At all. It has some uses for NIN, I'm sure...but also carries a heafty price-tag for an already expensive job. It has more uses for SAM and MNK, and even those are limited really...

I've heard pretty much everywhere for NIN it's: Evasion skill > AGI > evasion. Since it's only negative evasion, and not evasion skill, it might not be a much of hit to evasion at all.

I don't think I had more than 50k until level 30. Even then...I rarely had more than 50k at any time when I was leveling WHM (my first job). I kept having stuff to save up for. This was back in the day when it was acceptable for mages not to have a dark staff in the 60's. (Yes...that long ago.)

Anyway... Unless you find a decent way to make money as your low level jobs, I really suggest holding off on ninja. You can be like that guy Aeni pointed out and make it, despite what everybody else says. But it won't be easy.

[Aeni]

Re: Can nins weapons for dual wield be gimped?

I personally don't expect an o. kote. At all. It has some uses for NIN, I'm sure...but also carries a heafty price-tag for an already expensive job. It has more uses for SAM and MNK, and even those are limited really...

I've heard pretty much everywhere for NIN it's: Evasion skill > AGI > evasion. Since it's only negative evasion, and not evasion skill, it might not be a much of hit to evasion at all.

Adding damage on Weapon Skills adds to hate. From what I've been told. I see a lot of "uber" or "pimped" NINs macro in O.Kote ... and I agree with Tirrock, the loss in evasion for all of 3 seconds means little anyway...

I don't think I had more than 50k until level 30. Even then...I rarely had more than 50k at any time when I was leveling WHM (my first job). I kept having stuff to save up for. This was back in the day when it was acceptable for mages not to have a dark staff in the 60's. (Yes...that long ago.)

Well, I remember when owning a Dark Staff was considered a luxury, not necessity. This was when they were going for 1.8 million each. HQ staves weren't sold, they were kept. It's like an HNMLS selling off a Byakko's Haidate and you got 10 players in that LS that *could* use it.

Anyway... Unless you find a decent way to make money as your low level jobs, I really suggest holding off on ninja. You can be like that guy Aeni pointed out and make it, despite what everybody else says. But it won't be easy.

Yes, it won't be easy. You need grit, determination and self-motivation. You need to be able to stand in face of adversity, have a sense of humor and a VERY THICK SKIN. Also, be able to do your job well. I mean exceedingly well. I know a few NINs brag about their skills and when I PT, I feel like slapping them, because I didn't see any difference than if they just took PLD to 75 >_>

[Avoklex]

Re: Can nins weapons for dual wield be gimped?

a lot of people will advise yuo not to take Ninja as your first job due to the insane cost of tools/gear/etc..

Take some time out and get some crafting experience. it will help in the long run when it comes to making tools, plus a sense of satisfaction since you take your job seriously. it also helps cut down the cost of gear and farming since you can make decent money with crafting.