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  • #16
    Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

    right at 40 I tried spam all ninjutsu all around the elemental wheel and i hold hate super good that way as nin/war already. But only 1 level I almost run out of tool tho @@; I was using a few spell interupt down gears.
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    • #17
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      Yeah, prepare for those levels to be not only godly, but expensive also. Elemental tools are alot cheaper than the enfeebles but slightly more than shihei.

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      • #18
        Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

        hyoton: san and friends please. theres no point for elemental ninjutsu past 60. such a waste since thats the biggest chunk of your lvling career, 60-75.

        and a shameless plug for sneak ninjutsu.
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        • #19
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          I'm sticking to my guns in the fact that I think SE will add San Elemental spells as meritable spells after ToAU releases. My reasoning for this is because SE seems to want to make Paladin the dominate tank in the game. They've stated they have no intentions of gimping NIN, but I think they're going to try to push NIN's more into their DD role after the release of ToAU.

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          • #20
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            I say they nerf utsu and make nins do more of what they were originally intended to do, deal damage... but that's just me.

            /ma Barflame <me>

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            • #21
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              They'll never do it. I know all the non-NIN's won't care a lick about this, but SE understands that if they nerf NIN, mad people are gonna quit. Mainly because those of us that have thrown alot of time into NIN, have also spent Bazillions (Yes, Bazillions) on Shihei and what-not. Not to mention that NIN gear is ridiculously expensive.

              I can tell you this, if they don't make DW meritable I'm going to cry in a corner for a few weeks.

              EDIT Dingatty dingatty dingage.

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              • #22
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                Not quite the place for it I realize, but given the more recent updates to NIN and that fact that this is a very active NIN thread I suppose I'll just ask here.
                I'm about done with lvl'ing WAR, only 4 more lvls to go. Then back to NIN to take it to 37 (may take it farther, but want to focus on starting up RNG again, been taking so long on subs it seems like forever ago). Right now my NIN is 25. I already have all my gear until dodge earrings and katana upgrades. All my spells b/w now and 37 as well. What ninjitsu should I be using now and in the future? I think I've been using Kurayami and Dokumari or whatever so far. Also, at 30 should I use berserk whenever possible or no?
                Thanks
                (And I will definately have to give soloing a try now, didn't think it was an option before Utsu ni.)
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                • #23
                  Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                  Alwyas enfeeble. Until 40, ignore your ele wheel completely. The Ichi Wheel is extremely ineffective. I used it to MB on rare occasions but that's about it.

                  I don't know if this works, but I've always been in the habit of using the Elemental Jutsu to weaken a mob to earth before I used Hojo and weaken them to Ice before I cast Jubaku. I don't know if it helps, but I've done it forever. =P I didn't do it at your level but I've done it since 40 religiously.

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                  • #24
                    Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                    I used the wheel to catch up and cap my underleveled ninjutsu skill and then hocked the rest of the tools. I was extremely disappointed that my melee damage with my weak taru str outclassed the elemental damage with my good taru int even with my Eremites+1s macroed in. I guess I should be grateful instead that I don't have to spend any extra money for a while to cap out my damage.

                    Berserk: I don't have it yet, but I can guess how I'd use it. On mobs with strong TP moves like Screwdriver, not at all. If I'm keeping shadows up well and only getting hit once or twice a fight, zerk to heart's content. If neither is true, use only on a fresh blink or when necessary to steal back hate and cancel when appropriate.

                    Just a repost of some info Grendal-san posted a while back:
                    Originally posted by Apple Pie
                    Just came back from some experiments. I used Hyoton Ichi and casted it on Wild Rabbits on Eastern Ronfaure with various job combos.

                    RDM66/NIN33 without INT boost: 52 damage
                    RDM66/NIN33 with +22 INT: 52 damage
                    RDM66/NIN33 with Ice Staff: 57 damage

                    NIN37/THF18 without INT boost: 37 damage

                    BLM34/NIN17 without INT boost: 47 damage
                    BLM34/NIN17 with +1 INT: 48 damage

                    Well, both RDM66 and BLM34 has up to Magic Attack Bonus II (RDM40 and BLM30) and it seems to me that Ruic's guess is correct.

                    Patchinko's info seems to be correct, too. I don't know why RDM66 with +22 INT does the same as the one with no INT boost but I think max. damage is capped at 52 for me.
                    Stumbled across that last night. I'm just impressed by the difference made by magic attack bonus and elemental staves.

                    Slightly OT, but why does everyone seem so eager to see more jobs turn into DD? I made this complaint in the summoner forum too. I like having more than one job that can tank or heal. The situation where 4 DDs and a healer are looking for a tank for hours, or 4 DDs and a tank can't find a healer already happens way too often. Why is pushing the job spectrum more towards DD a good thing?
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                    • #25
                      Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                      I think just because SE intended Ninja to be a DD in the first place and they're annoyed we turned it into a tank instead. =P Makes you wonder though, if that IS the case, why wouldn't they be changing Samurai to be more the Tank they intended it to be.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Intensity
                        I think just because SE intended Ninja to be a DD in the first place and they're annoyed we turned it into a tank instead. =P Makes you wonder though, if that IS the case, why wouldn't they be changing Samurai to be more the Tank they intended it to be.
                        Never really thought Samurai was intended to be a tank... always thought of them as DD since they are extremely easy to renkei with.

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                        • #27
                          Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                          SE's original stance on Samurai when RoZ released was it was going to be the next Tank job. From what I remember anyway. That's one of the reasons SAM's AF feet and Body have the stats they do along with the Rice Ball enhancement on Gloves adding 40 DEF along with ATK.

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                          • #28
                            Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                            Soloing EM-T is fun but often you'll find you could probably get more exp off of EP-DCs. At 75 I can solo steelshells in the boyada tree without much hassle but I find i get more exp per hour soloing the robber crabs instead. Not only that, but I get more KS and BS as well which means more gil to pay for the expense of soloing.
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                            • #29
                              Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                              Intensity, I don't remember which thread for the Fan Festival it was, or even where in the thread, but someone said the devs were asked if SAM was ever supposed to be a tank and they said no.
                              Just an fyi. Almost done with WAR, then I get to go lvl NIN for 12 lvl's. Where were your favorite places to level instead of the Jungles?

                              EDIT: working on a couple things at work, soon as I get done in a few I'll look for it. I'm pretty sure its here on FFXIO.
                              Last edited by Caspian; 03-20-2006, 05:51 PM.
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                              • #30
                                Re: &lt;3 Ninja O,O

                                Wow, really? That's news to me.

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