What race makes a good NIN?

[Taskmage]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

When tanking I use agi rings. I have some str rings that I swap in for WS, but I think you could do without them.
If you find your holding hate and shadows well enough and you aren't using ranged attacks often, then you may decide to keep the str rings on.
As stated before, the best stat to focus on depends a lot on your skill, style and situation.

[Artaxerxes]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

Galka… who else can survive back to back Cyclone Claws from byakko, Which does happen Aoe Para sucks

That being said my nin has about 4-6 different builds. I am sure your race excels in one of them ,which makes it a viable choice. I find that being a galka i am allowed a lot more
area to slip for a sec, my 2k hp will cover me in time for the blm to stun. As apposed to my tanking partner, a taru who has around 1.2k

It also allowed me to tank mobs i shouldnt at lower levels, i remember tanking Wyvernpoacher Drachlox in my 58 exp party(I ate a ees and lived).

[Aeni]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

If all anyone ever cared about were racial stats at end game ... then you can take a look at the following base line stats.

http://www.datasync.com/~dsmith/FFXIStats/

Hume
HP 1072
MP 0
STR 70
DEX 70
VIT 66
AGI 70
INT 61
MND 52
CHR 56

Elvaan
HP 1153
MP 0
STR 75
DEX 67
VIT 69
AGI 64
INT 55
MND 57
CHR 56

Tarutaru
HP 916
MP 0
STR 64
DEX 70
VIT 63
AGI 73
INT 68
MND 49
CHR 56

Mithra
HP 1072
MP 0
STR 67
DEX 77
VIT 63
AGI 75
INT 61
MND 49
CHR 50

Galka
HP 1274
MP 0
STR 73
DEX 70
VIT 73
AGI 67
INT 58
MND 52
CHR 50

I also wanted to add that using a Galka's high HP to argue about being one shotted is laughable. Had a very good JP galka NIN once in DA and he still got one-shotted 3 times from Sickle Slash, including a 1,400 Sickle Slash (critical) I'm sorry, but what race is going to survive that at level 68?

[Artaxerxes]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

If all anyone ever cared about were racial stats at end game ... then you can take a look at the following base line stats.

http://www.datasync.com/~dsmith/FFXIStats/

Hume
HP 1072
MP 0
STR 70
DEX 70
VIT 66
AGI 70
INT 61
MND 52
CHR 56

Elvaan
HP 1153
MP 0
STR 75
DEX 67
VIT 69
AGI 64
INT 55
MND 57
CHR 56

Tarutaru
HP 916
MP 0
STR 64
DEX 70
VIT 63
AGI 73
INT 68
MND 49
CHR 56

Mithra
HP 1072
MP 0
STR 67
DEX 77
VIT 63
AGI 75
INT 61
MND 49
CHR 50

Galka
HP 1274
MP 0
STR 73
DEX 70
VIT 73
AGI 67
INT 58
MND 52
CHR 50

I also wanted to add that using a Galka's high HP to argue about being one shotted is laughable. Had a very good JP galka NIN once in DA and he still got one-shotted 3 times from Sickle Slash, including a 1,400 Sickle Slash (critical) I'm sorry, but what race is going to survive that at level 68?

You're nuts if you don't think the 10 vit and 300 hp difference between a galka and a taru isn't noticeable. Antimatter will 1 shot a taru nin, at full hp.

All that skill> race talk goes out the door on mobs that ignore player skill. Byakko WILL hit you, no way around it, having 2k hp helps more than having all the skill in the world and 900hp.

[Khidir]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

so if im an elvaan whm or galka whm i can tank byakko because i have more hp but not the skills of a taru pld or nin?

[Artaxerxes]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

so if im an elvaan whm or galka whm i can tank byakko because i have more hp but not the skills of a taru pld or nin?

have you fought proto-omega or Byakko before?

[Kagerou]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

Str difference also is really noticeable in Sam since the last 3 WS has a huge STR modifier.

[Omni]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

i wouldnt say its terribly noticable. theres a thread in the sam forum about a taru sam. he has great gear of course but his numbers compared to an elvaan sam with the same great gear are just the same as the thread describes.

[Kagerou]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

I shouldn't have said really noticeable, just more consistant.

[Aeni]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

have you fought proto-omega or Byakko before?

I've seen FlowerofLife take on Byakko without a single Elvaan or Galkan tanking him. So what's your point?

[little ninja]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

lets just face facts, us elvaan look funny when we cast our ninjitsu. but we do look badd arse the way we hold are katanas. =P

[Omni]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

theres also a thread on ki about full eva/agi build nin tanking gods and making gods miss 60% of the time.

full evasion skill/evasion/agi + dual mambo and march with wind staff has the likes of seiryu and byakko looking like their some EM mob...

there is/was (havent seen him around lately)a taru on remora that used to do this too. so basically yea, i dunno. ok. that doesnt really make a point cuz im sure theres times where an extra 300 or so hp does help a lot or vit or yadda or something. whatever this debate is just gonna go into another omgosh race > joo or gears > race or wtf > wtf... blargh

[Caspian]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

How did the nin keep hate with a weapon he has virtually no skill with, elemental ni's doing crap for dmg on a mob like that, and only a voke every 30 seconds? I know he's not losing much hate b/c of all the misses, but neither would any of the blm's or rng's or whatever else. It sounds awesome, curious as to how they hold on.

Btw, wtf > all.

[Taskmage]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

wtf > all

QFT. Wtf is uber. That's why people say it when something crazy happens.

[Omni]

Re: What race makes a good NIN?

well, when i read this it was before the advent of the utsusemi hate loss patch. however, even now, many ninjas go with enmity + dmg reduction builds and earth staff. theyre able to hold hate with earth staff so i dont see why it would be any different. if you had a duo tanking it you can also trade off fuidama as well.

seeing the screenies of byakko missing 4 straight is classic.

btw, wtf > omni orz.