Avoiding Mandies 25-30

[Cavalier]

I'm leveling NIN (and loving it) on the off chance that the upcoming 'adjustments' are as bad as most people assume they are (personally, I think RNG are gonna be a lot worse off than NIN, but meh, that's another topic).

Anyway, I know you can fight the Sahagin outside of Sea Serpent Grotto instead of the Yhotor Mandies at 28+, but is there something to fight from 25-28 (that isn't too far out of the way? I don't think too many groups are gonna want to travel 'all the way' to the Hidden Valley as it is...)?

I've heard you can fight the Stream Sahagin that are there as low as 23/24, because they're bard class, and are niether as strong as the WAR Sahagin nor have the healing ability of the WHM Sahagin that are also there, but I don't know if that's true.





thanks

[neighbortaru]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

tigers and gobs in batalia
there was a thread here about pre-zilart leveling spots too. you can see what ppl recommended there.

[Jei]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

go to outpost in yutanga and kill ranger goblins. They are weak and easy. After you reach 28 you can move to kill shahakins and pugils near the ssg zone. Favourite spots for JP PTs but not many NAs come here.

[Pounce]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

Solo in Quifim. Worms are ridiculously easy, and crabs aren't much harder. You'll probably be able to chain 2-3 easily.

Even without a emperor hairpin, with just Kurayami on EM and even T crabs/worms will miss 50%-75% of their hits. Bring a gun and some bullets and you can spike your damage output a little as well (assuming your marksmanship is capped).

Or, just meat tank the mandies. They hit like sissies. Don't even bother casting Utsusemi. Even mages with /WAR sub can tank those.

[Yossar]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

Gobs, Efts, and Dhamels in Bibiki Bay give great xp at around 27ish.

[Pai Pai Master]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

What Jei said. Just did it tonight, actually, and it was awesome. 25-30 in a flash.

[Omni]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

imo, i dont know why ppl are so worried about mandies 25-30 when going thru kazham. they hit so weak that almost any class can tank these. just have a competent healer and support healer and all will be fine. at that level, ninjas can wear chainmail which have nice defense. it is also what other tanks wear at this lvl as well.

[Niwaar]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

All the options have been good so far, but I would make another suggestion. When I staticed with 2 ninja's we went out of our way to fight in "different" areas. We stayed waaaaaay away from Mandy's. After qufim we skipped the pain that is screwdriver and did Korroloka Tunnel Clippers for a bit around 23-26, then head back to Qufim and did Atrophies until 28 before heading to SSG. The leeches in qufim range a tad higher than the Kazham style mandies and are easily tankable by a ninja team. Their only real painful ability is the TP drain as Acid Mist doesnt effect a ninja much.

[METDeath]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

go to outpost in yutanga and kill ranger goblins. They are weak and easy. After you reach 28 you can move to kill shahakins and pugils near the ssg zone. Favourite spots for JP PTs but not many NAs come here.

Tried this a few nights back, perhaps had the wrong set up... but we couldn't pull past chain #1, and never mind the Overgrown Rose making us run around, eventually got a safe camp back by the boxes...

[kuu]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

Tried this a few nights back, perhaps had the wrong set up... but we couldn't pull past chain #1, and never mind the Overgrown Rose making us run around, eventually got a safe camp back by the boxes...

why would you need to avoid that?

You don't ACTUALLY camp by the outpost, you camp on the rock to it's east...

Goblin rangers vs nin tanks have one thing.. range attack always hits a shadow and never misses... on the other hand, you don't get interrupted if it shoots a range at you.

If you really need to get that shadows up, just move back a few steps, and let it range on you while you get that shadow up.. Though any kind of sub tank works.. like a thf SA+WS will bound to turn it.

[Jei]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

there's 4 popular spots when you hunt the goblins. 1 by the rock as kuu said, 2 a little north by the tunnels with monkeys. Another spot near the sea serphant entrance, the way up from there with soldier crawlers which are not aggressive.

[kuu]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

there's 4 popular spots when you hunt the goblins. 1 by the rock as kuu said, 2 a little north by the tunnels with monkeys. Another spot near the sea serphant entrance, the way up from there with soldier crawlers which are not aggressive.

The rock has a somewhat better pull range, while the tunnel to north let's you -Ga spells.. the rock has monkeys...

All of them have possible gob pop, so you can't be lazy with afks here. Well it's usually not that bad, like for instance, the goblins are sight, so the rock camp, you can quickly run around it, blocking the goblin from seeing you.

[Cade]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

Anyway, I know you can fight the Sahagin outside of Sea Serpent Grotto instead of the Yhotor Mandies at 28+, but is there something to fight from 25-28 (that isn't too far out of the way? I don't think too many groups are gonna want to travel 'all the way' to the Hidden Valley as it is...)?

I've heard you can fight the Stream Sahagin that are there as low as 23/24, because they're bard class, and are niether as strong as the WAR Sahagin nor have the healing ability of the WHM Sahagin that are also there, but I don't know if that's true.

Are you avoiding mandies cause the area is crowded at times? Or are you avoiding them cause you don't want to deal with them?

Mandies are rediculously easy. Sure they attack twice now an then, but they hit like taru. If you're so worried about that then just get another ninja, or war/nin in the party so you can alternate tanking when the others shadows are down.

They really aren't a big of a deal.

...an yah before the majority of the NA discovered Kazham years ago, everybody went to Batallia for tigers and gobs, or did acrophies in Qufim all the way up to 30.

[Gokulos]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

Actually it seems that on Ramuh the SSG entrance is heavily camped
Theres almost always 1 pt when I go there ; ;

[Jei]

Re: Avoiding Mandies 25-30

you can start spiders in althepa at 28. but their slow really sucks for ninja imo...