Blink Tanking in the Jungles

[Alfion]

What i am trying to get to is, Is there any way to blink-tank through the jungles?. Or should i just try to tank them like Warriors and PLD's?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[Zempten]

Solo in Quifim Island , crabs and land worms.

#1) You don't waste time searching for a PT
#2) You use the same amount of NIN tools in a PT
#3) Exp is pretty decent, unless you capable of getting a kickass PT, and I mean....seriously kick ass PT
#4) You don't have to get trained by goblins every 10 mins or a goblin that spawns on top of your PT

Steps:
#1) Blind Mob, you can slow them as well if you'd like
#2) Engage
#3) Use Blade Retsu if you have it ready, if not save it for the start of the next battle
#4) Find another mob
#5) Rinse and Repeat.

Anyways,back to your original question. No your blink tanking won't be effective when they...

#1) Double Attack
#2) Use speical abilites that strip 2 to 3 shadows off immediately

So just tank as best as you can.

[Thegod]

ok finally went back to ninja leveling (rng almost 51, its about that time...

I've had two parties and they went totaly different.

1st party:

me- nin/war
whm/blm
red/blm
blm/wht
war/nin
drk/thf

i switched to reflex+1 rings, and federation gear all the way around minus the big three, and kingdom pants.


I wore all the goodies nomads+1 winged hairpin, but then i wore silvermail+1 everywhere else.

I got the share the hate so keeping hate wasn't an issue, i landed my attacks fairly well with jacks, so i switched back to balnce rings...got decent xp, i noticed when we did take dmg it was huge ammounts,, but other then that it was a normal smooth running party.

2nd party:

me-nin/war
mnk/war
sam/war
whm/smn
blm/smn
rdm/smn

This was a tad more difficult because none of the other vokers could count shadows for anything, and even with a call in my 2nd blinking macro (sad i needed two) they still messed it up 90% of the time..

I wore all the goodies nomads+1 winged hairpin, but then i wore silvermail+1 everywhere else.


I did fairly well like this, it wasnt as good as the other party with the war/nin to help me.

so IMO get some def gear and evasion gear and if ur alone tanking use def, if your not use evasion (makes shadows last longer

[Darkedge]

Or you could get a blinked War/Mnk tank in Kazham with a 25+ SMN/WHM healer and a WHM to Regen whore, and just DD as a Nin. You'll actually be able to land ranged attacks -kind-of- easily.

[Thegod]

MANDYS EVASION is kinda nice, i can hit very well soloing on worms with a gun, but i cannot land gun attacks with my nin on mandys....shurikens land, but i only have like 15 left, and i dont think it would be very wise to get anymore, its a hassle playing ninja like that, kinda tiring.

EDIT: hit level 27 nin last night, get this, im in a party, as the main tank, we get another nin, whose dam near idenically equiped, no nomads+1 no winged boots, but hairpin and leaping and regualr nomads...anyway...

we start going, but we r having a hard time keeping up the chain 5s, and its do to a serious lack of damage, so i the nice guy give the other nin a few sole sushi (not really give away type items) and he hits a lil better, but still we are killing em too slow...

so the other nin is like let me sub sam for more dmg, and god will tank, i was all for it, when i figured hey let me sub ranger, use some beetle+1 rings, and a gun i have tons of bullets in mog, let me just try it for a chain or two....


OMFG!!!!!! with federation tekko and RA rings, and sushi for accuracy, i outdamaged the rng, it was crazy, you can hit pretty nicely on mandys with a ranger sub and the correct gear, i actually ended up staying the main tank, just using gun to hold hate....


I'm sure this isnt gonna work for much longer, but if your looking for an alternative to the jungles, try subbing ranger and using a gun with RA rings, you'd be amazed how often you hit, and w/ sharpshoot up you might as well be a ranger because 1 miss per sharpshoot was the most i got, only missed one split shot the entire time we xped (didnt use it w/o sharp up of course.


anyway i was soooo juiced, because rng is the most fun to me, and i felt like i played rng last night but got 2 levels for my sub .

[711rocks]

I was wondering this too, getting ready to level nin there for sj. Are there any alternative places you can go at that level instead?

[Spider-Dan]

Honestly, I thought that mandies were actually ridiculously easy to tank.

Once you realize that (with Ichi alone) you will not have enough shadows to completely avoid ever getting hit, it's pretty straightforward. Mandies are the easiest mob I've ever fought when it comes to recasting shadows; when your shadows are down and your timer is ready, as soon as they do their first attack (their "right hand," so to speak) hit your Ichi macro. Their "left hand" will hit you at about 15%, and you'll execute your cast every time. They don't even have to be slowed. And it's not like there is a huge difference in base defense between a NIN and WAR at LV25-29; WARs are using a lot of the same armor as NINs in that level range.

My strategy as NIN/RNG was pull, blind/slow, fire gun until shadows are down, recast ichi on next round, fire gun until shadows are down, wash, rinse, repeat. If shadows are down and recast isn't up, I just kept firing. As I saw it, the difference between someone else voking off of me and taking a few hits was not worth the extra damage we would lose by me holding back. So I effectively tanked through damage (though we did have a WAR/MNK "tank" for first voke purposes).

[Thegod]

yeah thats wut ended up happening when i tried nin/rng, i was basically tankingn from all the dmg delt....

whoever said mithras are the best ninja lied, tarus are the best, i was leveling my rng in the quicksands, and this lvl 50 taru kept hate through a 720 barrage, and a 330 piercing right after it, it was nice, and they can keep that hate with no weapon equiped if they wanted.

I mean granted they should ahve those weakens defense katas at that level.

umm yea ninjas have the option of wearing the exact same gear as warriors, but should they?

federation tekko +3 ra and acc. these are very great, you cant get anything that boost accuracy (not counting daggers) before these. federation body and kingdom subligear (yeah it shows pants on the icon, but its a SUBLIGEAR!!!!..lol)

so all in all thats like 10+ def your missing from full chain gear, and thats how alot of nins are equiped.

BUT even so they only hit for like 18 with each attack, hardly enough to interupt your casting unless they get off 3-4 solid hits or a critical.

[Darkedge]

Originally posted by Thegod
whoever said mithras are the best ninja lied, tarus are the best

Why would taru be the best? They have lower STR and DEX than Mithra, I don't think their RSE sways the two races much if at all, considering Taru and Mithra have the highest AGI, and I _think_ Mithra might have a few more points of Agi end game.

Also, what are kindgom subligar? I thought they were Kingdom Trousers, adding evasion.

[Thegod]

they are kingdom trousers, but equip them, they look like a subligear.

umm mithras do have a few more agi points later in the game


elemental ninja magic power is based on ninjitsu skill (accuracy of the spells, wheater they get resisted or not) and INT, power of the spells.

have you ever wondered why taru rangers using elemental arrows always get a higher additonal dmg effect form the arrows, thats thier INT


taru nins who spend the gil to spam ele magic can keep hate better then the others.

[Omni]

im not sure how others elemental ninjutsu is. but if unresisted i do about 90-98dmg. magic burst for 110-115 unresisted.

i havent really seen any other races' dmg when it comes to ninjutsu so i dont have anything to compare with.

[Thegod]

exactly, the taru nin in my party last night (lvl ranger 50-52) was hitting each ele magic for about what my ranged attacks were doing (and i had republic pants active so thats +7 ranged attack more)

taru nins are beastly, its amazing, i had posted that choice was hands down the best tank i had ever seen, and i had no idea how he kept hate, but after seeing the second JP taru ninja hold hate like a beast i paid attention and he was spaming those nin magics like crazy....

...and here i am thinking im doing mjority of the damage, i was doing the most dmg, but definately not 50%+ like i normally do in a balanced party.

nin, brd/whm, whm/smn, thf, war/nin, rng/nin


omfg taru nins impresse me a whole lot, and taru plds impresse me too.


IMO taru and mithra are all you need, mithra rngs for dds, taru pld or nin for tank, of course taru mages, and mithran thf for hate management...

umm and people wonder why windy rocks...windy rocks!!!!!

[little ninja]

the mandies in the jungle were a picnic to tank. first go ahead an buy the +evasion gear that is out there. because it is really worth it. next thing is to pick up some jack o lanterns. after your eaten a jack o latern you should have over 30+evasion. with the bonus of +10 acc. an 3 hour lasting time. depending on how your parry skill is, id duel wield a katana+1. an the parry knife in the other hand. because having it capped +10 made alot of difference.

then on the pull id get into targets range an cast blind. then provoke so the target was focused on me, (relying on pts members to loand the other buffs). usually i waited for my second shadow to go down, an then i waited a couple of seconds to recast it. what that always did was played with that third shadow. it gave the mob enough time to either take it down, or miss it. this by far his prob the best way to manage you ichi spell. then after 2 set of blinks was up, id cast tsurara so that i could cap my magic.

just be warned while yes you will get hit, an hit alot, it is not as much as a pld or war would. an the other thing is mandies in the jungle have weak atks. also i wouldnt worry about casting other elemental spells. since they are still under the ichi class. it would take you to much time to execute a elemental wheel, an really then the main use of the elemental wheel id to give yourself a hate spike, not really nessasary where you are. id just stay with the cheap but effective tsusara...

[Omni]

meh on windy.
yay on san doria ;p

[Spider-Dan]

Originally posted by Thegod
they are kingdom trousers, but equip them, they look like a subligear.

No, they look like trousers. They look exactly like every other set of trousers.

Mithra wearing trousers get hot pants. Males of other races do not (not sure about females). hot pants != subligar (subligar = no pants)

have you ever wondered why taru rangers using elemental arrows always get a higher additonal dmg effect form the arrows, thats thier INT

Uhh, proof?