mithra ninja

[gomenasai]

it's a little late in my leveling to be thinking about this but i just got back from a long FF break and it's time to rethink things ^^

my question is, as a mithra ninja, should i focus completely on evasion+ like most other race ninjas do or should i put a little in STR, DEX? My main concerns are neck and ring slots (spirit torque v.s. spike necklace, STR rings v.s. AGI rings...) I've heard different arguments on this that i should focus only on evasion but also that (to hold aggro better) i should be able to do a little more damage (being mithra, high evasion, low strength). all opinions will be greatly appreciated ^^

[little ninja]

people play ninja so differently it is hard to single out a right answer to such a question. even 65+ lvls an im still not sure what is the best way to play it. for rings i see some with phalnax rings, i seen some with a mermaid ring. some with tiger rings, some with agi rings, some with dex rings, an some with sniper rings. an then some mix an match. is there way of playing due to money issues, or is the way there ninja lvls these would be a better choice???

as for what i wore at 56. i had 2 sniper rings. cause the more hits i could land, the easier holding hate was. an for the neck i wore a spirit torque. although now i see more an more ninjas with a royal gaurd collar,

[Dtec]

I'd go for Spirit Torque or Evasion Torque over a Spike Necklace since INT effects the damage your Ninjitsu does.

Also, for exp mobs, attack is the way to go. Since you are probably not going to reach your attack potential against an IT, boosting STR will do no significance (unless you are a Monk). Therefore, I would go for AGI rings myself, since AGI effects both evasion and parry. Other slots, you can do whatever you like.

IMO, here are the stats I would try boosting: evasion > accuracy > attack > agility > strength

You can boost whatever stats you like and still be pretty effective as long as you can keep Utsusemi up.

[Navia]

evasion evasion evasion.
Until AF legs I even wore those kingdom legs with 3evasion :p

Spirit torque is nice but once I got scorp harness I ditched it for accuracy neckpiece or spiked necklace.
Seriously you just have to try pure evasion/pure attack/mix of the two and see which one you are better at, and which one lets noone die and keeps the xp flowing smoothly.

I've seen ninja that can't handle the transition from Ni back to Ichi but they stacked str/acc/atk/enmity so their inevitable pounding by the monster wouldn't cause it to peel away and go after someone else.

[Koroco]

You can do the spike necklace just fine. Evasion will be nice but the spike necklace does quite alraight ^^
For rings, if you don''t want to afford sniper(s) + mermaid ring (which I recomend is just going with AGI rings). Some people think it is much harder to hold hate with hate with just evasion but you can hold hate really well with Ninjitsu spells.

[little ninja]

naaaa spike necklace is fine from 21-38 cause there isnt much else for a ninja to use in that slot. but at 38 you should most likely jump to the spirit torgue. also it is very afordable for the +5 evasion.

as with rings i was using snipers first chance i could. more hits equal better hate control. nothing like hitting 3 straight times, or even four. an at 20+ a hit. you will be keeping up with the other DD. as for the mermaid ring the +2 enimity is nice. but using your debuff ninjitsu causes alot of hate. add in numerous atks, an provokes, plus the elemental wheel, holding hate should not be to difficult. as for the agi rings. i never saw much improvement in my parries or dodge. an i was using the +2 at 14 til 36 when i could use the +3.

[Ozymandis]

Spike Necklace and strength rings will not be as useful at those levels. I wore 2xSnipers and Spirit Torque. The Sniper rings are very very nice for a ninja as far as keeping hate. However, getting hit with them on is not so nice
:sweat: You might want to try Tiger Rings at 59 to replace the Sniper's, if you can afford them, and depending your style.

The way I did it, was to concentrate on evasion early on. After 59 when our bard got Carnage Elegy, I began to focus on attack. At that point evasion became less useful, or not even a priority.

At present I have only +11-25 evasion, depending on what I'm wearing and the time of day :p. This isn't a lot but I still don't get hit very often. Of course, I'm Galka so I have more leeway with going full-out offensive because of my higher health.

Even though Mithra doesn't have as much HP, I'd still recommend going ACC/ATK/STR. More damage = faster experience gain, and better hate generation as well. Those evasion/enmity ninjas are neat, don't get me wrong, but I'd stack my exp gain up to any similiar party setup with a "traditional" ninja tank.

[Madison]

i would like to know if mithras make good nin's too ive seen a lvl 75 hume nin go at it and even without blink he wasnt getting hit... so a mithra would be even better thn that:confused: i would rather go hume because i dont rly want to be a female anymore ; ; is a nin's race frowned upon much?

[Kirk]

You know it is quite strange. You'd think there would be more mithra ninja out there due to stats but there just arn't. Maybe the kind of people who are attracted to ninja just arn't attracted to playing female cats ^^! I see far more elvaan and hume ninja than anything else. Maybe cause we look so good in af

Anyway no race doesn't make any different that people care about. A ninja is a ninja. What makes them good is the player.

As for set up i'm going to give full evasion a try and see how it goes. Even gonna swap life belt for survival. If i can still hold hate i'll be impressed lol. My set up will have me at +60 eva normally, +80 at night and max +100 at night when blinded.

I only got 20k more xp to get for 75 so i figured i might as wellscrew around now before i stop exping for a while.

[Ozymandis]

There aren't a lot of mithra ninjas on our server either. Tons of Elvaan and Hume. I'd even say that there are more Galka ninjas (past 37) that I see now than Mithra. I think it's because ninja is a tank class in this game, and people don't start Mithra characters with tanking in mind. I mean, how many Mithra paladins do you see? How about Mithra warriors?

Humes do rock in AF. Male and female. Elvaans, not so much. Galka, uh uh, I wear my AF chainmail but the rest Arhat's when I'm just stylin'. Taru... they're so small, who cares :p

Originally posted by Madison
i would like to know if mithras make good nin's too ive seen a lvl 75 hume nin go at it and even without blink he wasnt getting hit... so a mithra would be even better thn that:confused: i would rather go hume because i dont rly want to be a female anymore ; ; is a nin's race frowned upon much?

There's not much difference, they'll parry a little more, maybe evade a little more, and hit a little more often/crit more. In theory Mithra is probably the best ninja, in practice it's Galka, however no one really cares. As long as you have skill and good gear, that's what matters most. It's not that often that you'll be in competition for another ninja for a party slot, so don't sweat it.

[Madison]

<--- mithra pld i went mithra cause they looked cool at the time (but not any more)and yes i had tanking in mind when i started i dont know why but ppl refuse to see mithras as tanks:confused: i heard that they make the best war/nin, id bet u see more taru nin's and pld out there thn mithra (not having a go at u ozy )

[Ozymandis]

Originally posted by Madison
<--- mithra pld i went mithra cause they looked cool at the time (but not any more)and yes i had tanking in mind when i started i dont know why but ppl refuse to see mithras as tanks:confused: i heard that they make the best war/nin, id bet u see more taru nin's and pld out there thn mithra (not having a go at u ozy )

Galka and Elvaan make the best WAR/NINs, since you won't evade crap and rarely parry, STR VIT and HP are crucial.

If you already have a mithra character who's been levelled as a paladin, take that same character and level ninja, don't think twice about it. It's so damn hard to skill up your parry that it's better IMO to level both tank jobs.

I'm almost 68, tanked as both NIN and WAR, and my parry would be at cap if I was level 50 :mad:

[Omni]

taru nin keel you galka notsosneaky nin :mad: we slice up those fat ankles of yours!

[Arien20]

i wore the spirit torque, i like it. Not to mention getting hit sucks as a ninja.

I might start to go more +att gear now though..

[pdac]

Well, as a mithra now at 64, its been interesting.

I'm all +acc and some +eva now. A total of +27 evasion, and +34 acc. As a mithra, this has suited me extremely well for the 60's, as torama's and cockatrices are a pain to hit (and thus hold hate against) so the best combo I found was to concentrate more on accuracy to hit more frequently, and use Kurayami/Hojo to get some more hate and then lose less shadows (it lands most of the time, because I macro'd the af helm to boost Ninjutsu skill). This setup has served me really well, and even when I wasn't using a scorp harness it still worked great.