Ochiudo's Kote... worth it?

[gomenasai]

Hi all, i'm smack dab in the middle of AF, but recieved a healthy sum of gil from a friend who quit ( m(_ _)m ) so i was wondering, now that obscene purchases like everyone's favorite little red gloves are available to me, would they be worth it to a level 54 ninja? I'm currently using Federation Tekko (acc+3, rng add+3)

thanks ^^

[gomenasai]

also of note is that i rarely have over 100,000G, and that the gloves sell for ~460,000 on my server. I have 620,000 currently.

[Taurius]

Just slap yourself everytime you feel the need to buy anything that does Negative EVA XD

[711rocks]

it may be -5 eva but +20 attack is really nice...is that worth it for a nin? high levels answer that for me lol

[Jerrikk]

I can help with your question by answering with this quote from the DRK forum:

"In term of pure damage, Nagan has Belmung beat. 4 damage difference on a weapon is huge. Vassagos vs Darksteel scythe for example. While +13 attack means very little. I put on bomb core, and take it off, can't notice any difference. I guess any damage difference +13 attack makes is well below the baseline variable on per hit."

The discussion was on which of the 2 high lvl GSD was best. They came to the conclusion that having a higher Damage even by 1 point was more important than a higher attack. Well, I know you're thinking that the gloves wont give you damage mod period, that's right :p. The fact of the matter is our Katanas by themselves have a low damage cap, so even though the gloves will give you an extra +20 attack, it will benefit you very little for their price and that -5 evasion is killer
I think they are, like the Valkyrie mask, overrated.

Btw, use berserk and compare your damage before and after. You will notice your damage increases by a few points, but remember, that's with at least a +50 ATK mod :p

[LionhartPLD]

If you have trouble with holding hate it may help you a little. But if you're not having any problems with holding the hate it's a total waste of money. Besides -5 eva = nothx

[Kaita]

You will notice your damage increases by a few points, but remember, that's with at least a +50 ATK mod

I find if your gear setup is very weak on +atk like mine, the boost from kote is well worth it, especially on "soft" mobs like crawlers where everyone will have huge variation on dmg.

mid-40s in CN, i had federation tekko for a while (testing the +acc). average damage was about 20-40 per hand. switched up to kote, and it became about 32-45. completely unscientific, but i was pleased with the results i saw.

i'm pretty sure +atk works on diminishing returns, so for a drk who is stacked on +atk JA and gear, or even a +atk/+acc based nin, kotes will not show much difference.

gonna run another test once i get up to ninja/arhat's tekko, hope it works out well ^^

[Jerrikk]

Ah, yes. ^^
I will mention that these might be useful for those that are full of +evasion gear, or that have not as many +atk items around their lvl (possibly mid 40s).
Like all the other overpriced items it depends on the situation I guess.

[hocuspocus]

gomen doesn't tank.


so of course that extra damage would be useful, considering she offers nothing to an XP party with that sub.

/cheer's

[gomenasai]

oh good god... here we go again

can i not post a topic without getting flamed for how *I* would like to play ? if we need a tank, i tank, warrior is leveled and ready. but we usually have a paladin friend in the group anyway, who unlike me, cannot do *anything* but tank. i do what i can.

"/cheer's"

[hocuspocus]

Sure. and just what exactly is it you DO again?

You don't do any damage; thats quite obvious from the forum topic.

[gomenasai]

that wasn't the forum topic, if how i play offends you, private message will suit just fine.

[Koroco]

I got these kotes recently...... and I can def feel the -5 evasion de-bonus -.-
Not so much on the attack power. I carry around an extra pair of kotes though if I run into problems. Is it worth it, eh eh?

EDIT: Ooops, if you aren't going to tank then these gloves may help with damage, if you are not tanking

[fyrewyre]

lol i cant help but flame but i will try not to :D

seeing as a nin/thf cant hit nowhere as hard as a nin/war, i would say yes and get ALL the attack and strength you can so you can hit more than the rdm.

[fyrewyre]

Originally posted by Kaita
gonna run another test once i get up to ninja/arhat's tekko, hope it works out well ^^

/sigh

This is what i call the "Candy store effect"

When we're able to put on a new peice of gear then we get all giddy but then we look at our old peice of gear and then we're stumped on which one to wear. Arhats tekko adds evasion and emnity from what i heard while the federation tekko add a good 3 acc and R.Acc which is also good >_> which do we choose? lol


hate is not an issue, but the evade would be good.