Gear questions

[Rava]

Reading through the forum I've come to the very obvious realization that for ninja we need to focus on evasion. What I'm unclear about is should we favor evasion over def stats? What I mean is if I have at some lvl a gi that gives me + evasion and now am of the lvl for a new gi that doesn't have +evasion but higher def, wich should i choose? What slots can we sacrifice a little evasion for +atk or accuracy(should we even bother with accuracy or dex equipment?).

Basically, I'm very much in agreement with the thread started on ninja dmg output. I'd like to gear for an offensively competent (read: capable, NOT all out atk) ninja to help hold hate. I'm still pretty young and squanderring for gil(prays that gardenning will aliviate this burden some), but I am ready for campfesting.

[Rava]

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[ZQM]

:p

Are you pre or post Ni?

Before you get Ni, Defense > Evasion. Unless you already have really high evasion, it's not going to help much. After Ni though, defense doesn't really matter at all and you want all evasion.

Atleast, that's to my knowledge of post Ni. I'm only 33 at the moment.

[Aldo]

Should be in this order, evasion then HP+. Evasion is important because its impossible to use ichi and ni without having no shadow image at one point. only exception of gear i make is for ochido's kote (eva-5) because that attack+ is rather significant, i switch to AF gloves at 60, then upgrade to hate+ eva+ kote, then the eva+10 att+ kote at 72 (same with boots). chest AF is fine, byrnie is bit of a waste, i think dual swing+ is more important than extra hp and attack, of course scorpio harness is ideal. acessories rings unfortunately the best hp+ ones are hard to get. belt survival belt lasts from lv38 till 75. necklace spike necklace at first then theres that mp+ eva+ torque then the good one is evasion torque at lv60s with hp and eva+. earrings dodge earrings are fine at lv29-75 but there are also some earrings that give eva+4 (only 1 more point) but at a att deduction, your choice. headpiece emperors hairpin is fine forever, but optical hat would be ideal, it has no HP-, perhaps an HQ headband could be better as well. cape, bat cape is fine but the fenrir cape is also good it gives defence+10 and hate+3 depending on if its night or day - both good for a tank. there is also some very nice hp+ agi+ equips for mnk/nin/sam but they are aquired from tulia NMs.

[Navia]

I agree with aldo, i'm 5k xp from getting utstusemi:Ni and by far the biggest help has been stacking on the +evasion (+22 here, but take -5 from wearing kote) and +hp (I wear mithra rse chest (+32hp) instead of federation sitabaki(+1vit +3evasion), and rse shoes +16hp).
Tanking gayla bats in behemoths dominion, the extra hps made the difference between me surviving almost 400 point jetstreams or kissing the dirt (my max hp is 599) :sweat:

Having only ichi means you will eat a few monster ws with your blink down - I didn't drop my evasion earrings for +hp ones or wear something like a bomb ring, but you could take it that far if you are a taru i guess. You can also use crab or other food with +defense%, to ease the damage you take when you do get hit as well.

[Rava]

thank you so much for the great replies. helps me out a whole lot and is just what i was looking for. i'm right now a lvl 25 mithra monk / almost 26 (monk was highest lvl so decided to get it to 30 to get job then get it to dual wield to sub it for war to get war to 30 to sub it for ninja ^ ^ lol). this wll help me out alot planning what gear to keep and what not from monk ^ ^. is the +5 evasion circluit ok for a head piece that you quest in windurst?

[Lil Dreamer]

NINs can't equip that circlet u speak of

[Navia]

The only headpiece before emp hairpin that adds more than +1 evasion is a level 14 3def +3evasion headband that can be used by all jobs.
Beetle headgear+1 is level 21 10def 1evasion -3ice, not a bad item but I didn't care for the look and used the headband until I got my hairpin.

[Rava]

argh, you're right >< . blast, and that would be a sweet circlet until hairpin to :mad: ....ah well.

[Burzum]

I think u also have to consider you race... Being Galka (Lost of Hp's already at 468 at 24) my main concern is +eva and +dex/agi I'm not sure if the Kote's are worthwhile till I get access to Ni as I need all the misses I can get while being forced to use Ichi... So I see Kote as a higher lvl upgrade when you can one better finance yourself and 2 have access to more +eva gear to compensate for the -5 eva from gloves.


Although not having a higher lvl job to farm with... makes me a little more concerned for powders... I'm also of the opinion that investing in high +eva items will pay for themselves in powders saved... hence why I bought Hairpin at 24 blowing me powder nest egg... And I'm now farming for powders to continue lvling

[Rava]

i finally hit ninja :confused: !!!

i must say though, this is one of the best class communities :D i love you guys!

my ninja is a mithra, so i'm wonderring at about how much +evade would be a good stopping point and then i can start adding some +Atk. i'm thinking around +20 evade should be good, especially with the built in mithra agi. then to a little +dex to help my already pretty crazy dex and then to atk :D

i'm sure there ar egaping holes in my line of thinking so any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Masenken]

wow, my first post!

Umm, I'm currently a lvl 40 nin/20 war elvaan, and I've done a fair share of tanking and just sitting in the back row beating on things.

When I first started I wasn't exactly too sure what I wanted equipmentwise, but I knew anything +eva would be prime. However, may of the things I wanted like the emperor's hairpin (350k) or dodge earrings(30k a piece) were just out of my reach. Right now i have mythril earrings, survival belt, and a nomad's mantle.

And what some of the guys above said was right, tanking befor Ni is hard. I tried to let Blade: Retsu tack on some misses for me since it adds paralysis, and for the most part it worked.

As of now I'm currently working out the bugs of past mistakes armor wise and working on 2 sets. One for tanking, and one for sitting in the back row/farming

When tanking for an elvaan or galka even, lots and lots of evasion is a must, thoug when I'm in the back row a few blinks will alleviate me of any stray attacks that may fall upon me, which makes me want to sacrifice some eva for more str and att up equips. Of course accuracy is an issue too for my race which I plan to alleviate with a life belt at 48.

I dunno... I still got some bugs to work out, let me know what you guys think

[Navia]

Yes about 20 evade is good to aim for, some good stuff to be wearing by 30ish:

Dodge earring x2 (+6evade)
lizzy boot (3dex 3agi)
lev 24 - Nomad Mantle (+3evasion, 1 agi)
lev 24 - Emp Hairpin( +10evasion , 3agi)
lev 25 - Federation Gi( +3 evasion)
lev 25 - Kingdom Trousers ( +3evasion )

+2agi converts to 1 evasion as well.

This frees up neck/ring/hand/waist/weapon slots to get your +dex/accuracy/attack. You need to land attacks consistently for decent damage to keep the monster interested in hitting only you instead of the drk with the big scythe or the ranger using good arrows.
I recommend only using 1 katana (+1 version, main hand), with the other hand equipping a +accuracy +attack sword or dagger weapon like bastokian sword, or federation/windhurstian kuhkri when you are of sufficient level.

2 sword/dagger with +acc/+atk is really nice once you cap katana skill for level, but what you use mainhand partly depends on the skillchain.

[Masenken]

Hmm.. my gear is currently as follows

Head: dodge headband +3 eva
Neck: Spike Necklace +3 dex and agi -6 mnd
Body: Magna Jerkin +24 hp +1 dex and agi
Waist: Survival Belt +17 hp +5 eva
Arms: Ryl Mufflers acc +2
Legs: Ryl uhh. pants +1 dex and agi
Feet: ryl sollerets +1 agi
Ears: mythril earrings til I can get dodge earrings
Rings: sandy ring +1 str and mnd and sardonyx ring +1 str +3 fire res

This gear is leaned more towards my attack gear, for when I'm not tanking, I still have a +15 to evasion +6 to str and dex and a +2 to agi lol

Currently working on camping the emperor and trying to afford Ochiudo's Kote (350-400k) and a survival belt (100k) before long. Accu and Eva are my main concern for when I tank and str and accu are for when I'm sitting in the back row. If I can keep my static I won't have to tank, but if it breaks up then yes, I'll be burning my Utsusemi like a mofo as I plow my way to lvl 50 possibly within 4 days if I go hardcore about it.

Oh yeah, and the 60k to get a pair of dodge earring, can't forget those lol

[Masenken]

oops I forgot

oh yeah... I got my af katana too the delay is horrid, but I like the damage

Forgot the names of them but one has +2 str and -1 dex and the other being the total opposite.

As for throwing... I slacked in that department, only lvl 15 throwing skill and counting. I got a chakram to play with til I finally cap it.

Meh, I likes the damage output regardless