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  • What If:Throwing WS and *possible* Ninja Tools.

    Kind of a follow up to my "How would you alter the ninja?" topic. I'm sorry, I just like to speculate about stuff, and I know lots of you do too. And I also wanted to mention these idea's in my last thread, but unfortunatly it got closed before I could do so. ; ;

    I was playing a Tenchu game the other day at a friend's house, since I had never played the 3rd one yet (Its so much better than the second...) And I started thinking that some of the Ninja tools in that game would make great Ninjutsu abilities in this game.

    So the topic is, is what do you think would make good Ninjutsu additions?

    And the second part is Throwing WS's, they seem to be a really popular idea among everyone who plays this class, so what do you think would be really nice Throwing WS's? Ones that deal more with actual physical damage than effect based ones that Katana's use?

    For me personally, for Ninjutsu I think these would be really neat:

    Dissapearing Leaves technique: Gives you the effect of flee for 20-30 seconds and gives you the effect of 10 second aggro invulnerability. (Will shed aggro if its attracted)
    Recast about 3-5 minutes.

    Technique of Exploding Bomb: Deals physical, non elemental damage to the enemy and lower its defense against physical attack.

    And throwing WS's:
    Duel throwing technique: A two hit attack, uses Two Shuriken instead of one. (Shuriken type only)

    Exploding Shuriken: Throws a volley of specially designed exploding Shuriken, deals fire damage and lower's physical defense -5% (Shuriken type only)

    Pin point Shuriken: Throws a Shuriken with increased accuracy, deals critical damage and temporarilly stuns the enemy. (Shuriken Type only)


    What do you guys think? I think these would complement a Ninja tank well, and if the class ever changed it'd still be good. I think it would really help the Ninja's whole "lower defense" game and probably generate a good deal of hate to boot. And please...don't let this become another Nin/War debate. We know already.
    Oh, and these are possible Ninjutsu scrolls, and Throwing WS's only. No Job abilities or passives, I think we've talked about those quite a bit. Also, try to be creative please. The ninja's current style is based around evasive action and indirect crippling techniques, not one hit kill super monsters. :p Come on, its fun to try to think cool while being possible.


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  • #2
    Those are all great ideas! ^^ well some idea I had in mind was they can throw elemental balls or elemental+debuff type shurkiens?. But thats just me :sweat:
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    • #3
      Those shuriken WSes sound really expensive. It's a lot like RNG's barrage ability, and those level 28 shurikens are 20k a stack so I don't think there will be very many shuriken-throwing ninjas. XD Only of shurikens were more affordable. D;\
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      • #4
        It wouldn't be that bad actually if all of them weren't multi hit ones. Seeing as how Ninja's get tp pretty quickly normally, if Throwing WS's were more damage orientated like that (I love the Exploding Shuriken idea, Exploding Shuriken's are just an awsome idea. :D) It'd be a nice way to keep hate and make up for the lower damage of Katana WS's, which can be used for certain situations or when you get the more damaging ones, regularly.


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        • #5
          throwing WS would be bad ass.


          doubt it would happen but still.


          they need to do something for our class.

          either some other type/more hate management or more damage something in the middle maybe.

          who knows what theyll do.

          oh well @@;
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          • #6
            Those are some good ideas. ^^
            I think Elemental Balls would be cool to, but they should be deals major damage to enemies weak against that element only.

            Shuriken WS:

            Stealth Shuriken - Throw a shuriken at the enemy. (Extra damage when not targetted) [Cost 1 Shuriken]
            Twin Snakes - Throw two shurikens. Adds poison [Cost 2 Shurikens]
            Hellsing - Minor damage but deal many status effects. Adds Poison, Blind, Silence, and Paralyze. [Cost 4 Shurikens] (For each effect)
            Bird of Prey - Jump into air and rain down shurikens. [Variable Amount of Shurikens]

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            • #7
              These are great ideas and I'd love it if SE implemented them.

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              • #8
                I can't beleive I didn't think of these earlier, the most glaring and obvious missing pieces of the Ninja in my opinion:

                Technique of Dark Ritual: Deals Dark damage and lowers enemy defense against Light.

                Technique of Warding Paper: Deals Light damage and lowers enemy defense against Dark.


                ^Why on earth don't we have these? lol If we can elementally enfeeble, we should at least have *every* possible elemental enfeeble.


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                • #9
                  Technique of Jump Really High Like Soaring Eagle Flies: Jumps as high as a soaring eagle can fly.

                  Why don't we have this one?
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                  • #10
                    There aren't any soaring eagles in game, silly.
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                    • #11
                      That would be a awsome WS that you jump in the air and throw shurikens at them causing no shurikens :sweat:
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                      • #12
                        Well, I think Throwing WS's in general would be cool, but not just for shuriken. Like Throwing WS's for boomerangs and chakrams (I'm a THF.) Maybe Flamerang, or whatever over element you could use. Maybe Chakram could have Whirlwind Toss or sumptin. But, yeah, I agree with having throwing WS's. Thieves and Ninjas are known throwing users, so those WS's should be exclusive to those jobs.

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