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    Greetings,

    My wife is wearing almost full Pahluwan gear at 74, and wanted to know if it would be better to melee in the Pahluwan Qalansuwa (+7 acc, +5 atk, and full set = enchance subtle blow) or to wear the Walahara Turban (+5% haste, +30 MP/HP) instead. Shes a very casual player, so she wont get access to any god gear anytime soon.

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    Re: headgear @ 75

    I'd suggest the Walahara Turban personally. Subtle blow as a trait in exp parties isn't really going to show a difference when you consider you have 3 or 4 other people hitting on the mob.

    She could swap to the Pahluwan during WS for extra attack if she has nothing better, but I believe she'd gain TP faster and do more damage over time using the turban.

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    • #3
      Re: headgear @ 75

      I was going to disagree, but after thinking about it, unless you're having problems hitting then 5% more hitting is going to do you more good than +5 attack, as the amount of damage that comes out of it will be better.

      In any case I think its important to note that the difference will be slight. We're talking going from a minimum 300 delay to 285. This is full Martial Arts, no fist weapons. That equates to like one extra attack round every few minutes.

      I think that higher delay weapons (like the Spartan Cesti) would do better with haste, but I'm not sure... and can't be arsed to do the math right now.
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      • #4
        Re: headgear @ 75

        Go Turban for TP Build the 5% will make u build in TP Faster but for Head on WS sub in Ohat if she has access to it or a Acc+ Piece due to Asuran is 8hits and Afists only Succeeds when all 8hits connect which can bring a MNK to High DPS and High WS's making them stronger then most DDs were only certain geared jobs could over due them

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        • #5
          Re: headgear @ 75

          Agreed........ Monks are great DD's when built properly ACC is very important as well as Speed. Hitting faster and more often = much more damage over time. If she doesn't have the acc problem the turban is best.

          Fashion Statement though lmao the turban is butt ugly XD. I put mine on in fights only.

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          • #6
            Re: headgear @ 75

            As much as I hate the way that damn Turban looks on just about all races, when you couple that Brown Belt with the Turban, and perhaps another item, you're looking at a nearly a full Haste spell worth of Haste. Hit faster, build TP faster, WS sooner is all you want in a Meripo. For something like Missions or HNM activities, she may have other requirements. I know you said a casual player, but with a full set of Pahluwan that pushers her past the casual level. That's a lot of work and Assaults to get that full set.

            I would put in Acc for A. Fists as well to make sure all hits land to get those numbers up.
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            • #7
              Re: headgear @ 75

              Use the turban. IMO the pahl set is really geared twoard pup. (i have both monk and pup at 75) 5 att isnt gonna help you much but that extra speed will. Puppetmaster lacks in att so that head piece is insane for them. monks not so much.
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              • #8
                Re: headgear @ 75

                How well merited is your wife on hand-to-hand merits? Haste is great and all, but it won't mean a hill of beans if you're not making the most of your accuracy and missing your Asuran Fists.

                If she has full hand-to-hand merits, I would say use the turban for haste-build. Otherwise, stick with the Optical Hat for accuracy until she gets more merits.
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                • #9
                  Re: headgear @ 75

                  Optical Hat for WS.
                  Wahlara Turban for DoT.

                  If you're doing an attack build (I don't play MNK, so I'm not sure if it's viable), but Carapace Helm offers the highest +Atk on head slot for MNK.
                  Last edited by Sabaron; 12-24-2007, 10:33 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: headgear @ 75

                    I use the Turban to TP and Acc 1st/Atk 2nd/ Str 3rd for ws'. Ohat's nice for ws' but Id rather use the Shura head as you get Str as well as acc.
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                    • #11
                      Re: headgear @ 75

                      If you're doing an attack build (I don't play MNK, so I'm not sure if it's viable), but Carapace Helm offers the highest +Atk on head slot for MNK.
                      It's pretty dangerous to stay in the orange 24/7.

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                      • #12
                        Re: headgear @ 75

                        Attack builds usually work around having the max haste possible to you as well though. I don't know if there is enough equipment available to give enough Atk+ to make up for the loss of 21-25% haste.
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                        • #13
                          Re: headgear @ 75

                          Not knowing everything about the gears your wife has, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say stick with the Pahluwan Head.

                          The guys are right saying haste is good.. *but* without enough accuracy/attack in the first place, haste is wasted.

                          If she's not well merited, and well geared (saying no God gears - I'm going to assume the same for Salvage gears also).. stick with the P. Head for now. Yes - the O-Hat will give more acc, but the Pahl Set isn't bad for the beans

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                          • #14
                            Re: headgear @ 75

                            The guys are right saying haste is good.. *but* without enough accuracy/attack in the first place, haste is wasted.
                            Thing is, this is Haste head vs Acc/Attack head, not haste set vs acc/attack set. The head slot won't make or break anyone's performance.

                            Assume for a second that his wife has no Haste gear, and only has 15% base Haste to work with from the Haste spell. The improvement in attack speed resultant from equipping the turban over having nothing on your head is going to be 0.85/0.80 = 1.0625, or 6.25%. The improvement in hit rate over no head equipment can also be found by dividing "New Hit Rate"/"Old Hit Rate". With an O-Hat, her new hit rate will be her old hit rate + 5. If her "old" hit rate is higher than 80%, then the improvement will be less than the turban's.

                            To be honest she's going to want both. 5% Haste is worth a lot when if for whatever reason you find yourself in a situation where a lot of Haste is available to you (Haste spell + double Soul Voice'd Marches will already put you pretty high.) Pahluwan Head is useful if her hit rate without it is at 80% or less.

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                            • #15
                              Re: headgear @ 75

                              She's going to have at least a brown belt tho so would the 13% haste not be better in that case?

                              I know they are only asking about the head but in reality I'd hope a 75Mnk would have the brown belt.
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