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**Ameroth** · 02-06-2007, 05:03 AM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

Your empress band macro will work considering you don't use any other macros until the band macro finishes (by re-equiping the Courage Ring). /Wait commands are interupted if any other macros are used while they are in progress.

**LyonheartLakshmi** · 02-06-2007, 06:29 AM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

I highly advise you learn how to read a Skill chain chart. Here's the one I tend to use.

I'll step you through finding a SC that work with Backhand Blow. All the WSs on this chart (and most others) are grouped together into WS "slots" (like the slot for ones that close Distortion, etc), and then further grouped into the weapon type (H2H, Sword, etc). Even if you aren't familiar with a particular WS, you should be able to find it by looking around for it.

Backhand Blow happens to be in the top left corner of the chart, right at the top. If a particular WS happens to be able to open/close multiple SCs, it will have a little number next to it as well, like (1), (2) or even (3) (in other SC charts, it may be a litter instead of a number). These numbers/letters are there to show precedence: if two weapon skills could possibly chain in more than one way, 1 will take precedence over 2, and 2 over 3, etc.

Thankfully, Backhand Blow is only in one spot of the chart, so there's no confusion. Arrows which lead away from that group of WSs show SCs that Backhand Blow can open. Arrows which lead toward that group show SCs that Backhand Blow can close. You should see 3 arrows leading into that group labelled Wind, 1 leading away labelled Earth, and 1 last one leading away labelled Gravitation (lvl 2 SC made up of Dark + Earth).

In order to skill chain with the NIN in your static (assuming he uses Katanas, instead of something unusual like swords), look for Katana WSs (abbreviated KTNA in this chart) which connect. The number shown to the left of each WS is the skill needed to learn it. Backhand Blow requires skill 100, so I'm guessing the NIN has similar skill.

The only Katana WS that can SC with Backhand Blow that the NIN can use at this level would be Blade: Retsu. If you open the SC, the NIN would close an Earth SC by using Retsu. If he opens it, you would end up closing a Wind SC with Backhand Blow.

PS: Backhand Blow looks like another Iron Tempest, except it can't even close Distortion. Combo is probably still your best WS. If your static really wants a SC, I'd suggest Blade Teki/To => Combo for Impaction (Lightning). You could even do a Fragmentation SC with Blade To => Shoulder Tackle. But Shoulder Tackle does weak damage, which means the SC itself will also do weak damage.

**Malacite** · 02-06-2007, 07:27 AM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

There is a use for it though. It's modifiers aren't too bad, it's main problem is it's a one-hit wonder. It's a decent enough Detonation closer, which is great if you're fighting bats in garlaige and have a BLM with Aero II. Otherwise, yeah stick to combo until Raging Fists.

**Eohmer** · 02-06-2007, 08:33 AM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

Originally posted by Effedup View Post

Okay, now for the more complicated question. I'm gonna post my Empress band Macro here, and if y'all could check it over and make sure I didn't really mess it up, that'd be phenomenal. Specifically the /wait times...don't know how long to put and don't want to waste an empress band charge experimenting...

Anyways, teh Macro:

/equip Ring2 "Empress Band"
/wait 15
/item "Empress Band" <me>
/wait 3
/equip Ring2 "Courage Ring"

Ok, I know I can just equip it, use it, and then swap it back out, but that's the problem...I constantly forget to swap back in my other courage ring and notice somewhere halfway through an exp party, which makes me feel like a n00b.

Why not test it when you're actually going to party? That way, it won't be a "wasted" charge.

From what I can see though, the macro looks about right. You may change the wait 3 to 4 though, since you're using an item and the animation takes a while.

**Effedup** · 02-06-2007, 03:04 PM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

Originally posted by LyonheartLakshmi View Post

I highly advise you learn how to read a Skill chain chart. Here's the one I tend to use.

I'll step you through finding a SC that work with Backhand Blow. All the WSs on this chart (and most others) are grouped together into WS "slots" (like the slot for ones that close Distortion, etc), and then further grouped into the weapon type (H2H, Sword, etc). Even if you aren't familiar with a particular WS, you should be able to find it by looking around for it.

Thanks so much for the explanation...I knew how skillchains "worked" and I've done them before, but those charts were all gibberish to me, so I usually asked someone in my ls what sc's would be good to use. I'm gonna save that chart (the one I saw before was kinda hard to follow, but this one seems easier) as a JPG and set it up as my wallpaper on my 2nd monitor, that way when I play I have that information full sized right there. So again, thank you! ^^

I was doing scission with our WAR (Sturmwind=>Combo) which the BLM was then MB'ing, and it seemed to work well, albeit a little random, which leads to my next question...Is the extra damage output random with skillchains, or is it all dependant on timing? We would hit scission for 40+ dmg one chain, then 19 the next, and so on and so forth. I'm trying to get my timing down (if it is timing that effects it) because the few times we SC'd and totally obliterated the mob was very nice ^^

Also, thanks to everyone else for looking over my Empress Band macro for me...I'm gonna give it a whirl next time I exp ^^

**Icemage** · 02-06-2007, 03:28 PM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

Skillchain bonus damage has to do with the damage dealt by the closing weaponskill, the level of the skillchain, and the elemental resistance of the enemy.

Your BLM is probably not terribly happy magic bursting on Scission, since not much is weak to earth magic (and thus producing a lot of resisted damage). As long as this is working for you, though, knock yourself out.

Icemage

**Effedup** · 02-06-2007, 04:16 PM

Re: Question about MNK and Empress Band

No, our BLM was not happy with the MB damage...if I recall, she said something along the lines of "Goddamn <beep> resisted all <beep> day long <beep> <beep> mother <beep>!" Funny thing is, she suggested the SC herself when we were discussing our strategy in Garliege

<rant>(interesting side note...you'd think with 2 NIN's the strategy would be pretty straightforward, 'cept when 2nd NIN doesn't understand what "Shadows down please provoke" means...MNK back-up tank in a dual-nin party ftw, and even better WHM casting Cure II on himself after getting drilled for throwing out a Cure III on me because 2nd NIN doesn't voke, which leads to dead WHM cause now the mobs REALLY pissed. Proper hate management, anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Yeah...it was ugly) </rant>

Sorry, had to get that off my chest...was really irritating...I don't know much, but I know that sucked ass.

Anyways, I usually just go with the flow...I'm just a lowly DD, so I'll do whatever the mages/tanks feel is best. They say they want scission, well, scission it is ^^

If it sucked so bad (and dmg was pretty sucky at times, although pretty good others) I wonder why she suggested it? Hmmmmm....

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