+Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

[Celeal]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

In general, I agree with IfritnoItazura in above post.

In my past parties with IT mobs (excluding overhunt situations), at level 40, with ACC+15 ~ +20 from gear with attack food can match the TP gain with sushi user: Whenever the sushi TP just reach over 100%, my TP is also reach over 100% at almost the same time. At level 50, with ACC+35 ~ +40 is enough with attack food. After level 55, I experience a huge gap in ACC between sushi setup and meat setup.

Seriously, at level 40 we don't need ACC +40 from gear in order to use meat

[Ryouken]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

As you've probably realized, Accuracy is a Monk's greatest weakness (well more specifically it's weakness in terms of PT performance), and you should try and do everything you can to make up that weakness with as many +ACC gear and food you can find.

Once you get to 50, you must start buying some +ACC gear, even Battle Gloves will do if you don't have the money(I myself am poor and am currently using Battle Gloves and they allow me to fufill my PT's expectations). Also weapons such as Impact Knuckles have decent stat increases (including accuracy) that are also reasonably priced (if you really have no gil then you can get your artifact weapon, Beat Cesti, which also raise accuracy).

If you don't buy some kind of +ACC gear at that point, your performance within a PT will be far below satisfactory and this can lead to fewer PT invites.

My advice for you is to possibly lvl up your THF to 15 (Treasure Hunter) and start farming some low lvl mob drops (rabbit hides, beehive chips, or even silk thread if your in Sarutarubata) and sell them at the AH.

Remember that you can't just grind right to 75 without taking the proper preparations until you can get your artifact armor (which can be started at 50+), at that point you can recieve some good gear for free (however you will need help from friends to complete the quests.). So just get some decent +ACC gear that can last you till your mid-50's and then start getting your artifact set.

[Omni]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

eh... i dont agree with the above post. the heavy reliance on +acc items was dropped with the intervention of sushi. if you leveled before sushi was introduced then yes, acc items are very very important. so to answer the topic question, yes i think +acc is overrated.

pre-sushi grind consisted of loading up with as much +acc as possible since at that time, it was all about eating meat or other +atk foods.

for any job that i have played, i have geared less towards +acc and more towards str/atk while eating sushi. IF you still have issues with accuracy, i believe mnk is the job with the least worries. naturally mnk has decent accuracy, it also has Focus to add to it when facing high evasion mobs. you should have some +acc pieces in your inv. just in case but saying that you MUST equip +acc is a bit unnecessary.

Also, with the affects on PT invites, unless you are notoriously for being a bad player (not just your acc sux but afk, stupid, etc) PT invites are always slower for melee. Your pt performance does not contribute to how quickly you get invites through these mid levels. 1/20 people will remember you, if that. melee are always going to be plenty and pt invites will always be slower than mages. simple as that.

[Celeal]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

With sushi, it is not necessary to load every possible gear slot for acc+ equipment. However, some acc+ gear is recommended. For example, Juji. Gi is still a nice body gear from level 40 until level 55, even with sushi setup.

Look at the current price of O.Kote, Brown Belt or other ATK/STR gear for sushi build, and compare the current price of ACC+ gear around level 40, it can be cheaper with meat build between level 40 and 50. When the MNK reach higher level, he can switch to sushi setup:
-- Higher level means more farming options.
-- AF can replace some gear.
-- Sell those expensive ACC+ gear for funding expensive STR+/ATK+ gear.

The fact is, top of the line DD gear is usually expensive, regardless of +acc, +atk or +str, except of a few exceptions or questable items.

Saying +ACC is overrated because it is expensive (unless I misunderstood the OP) is very different from saying +ACC is overrated because of sushi.

[Omni]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

i feel +acc is just overrated overall.
now im not saying that you should not wear any +acc gear but, the need for expensive, rare +acc gear still doesnt convince me. There's a lot of easily attainable, good +acc gear out there that will do the job and then some!!

[D34ThWi5h]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

I've invested in a Life Belt and borrowing a Juji Gi till 58 for Temple Cyclas which will be +15 Acc. at 56 my Focus will add +20 acc( w/ Temple Crown) for 2 minutes which is about id say 75% of mobs but still some downtime on recast.
My question is will +35 Acc be enough to switch to ATK Food instead of Sushi?

[Celeal]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

It depends on your level range, the mob's type and level, party's buff (BRD, COR or SMN?) or debuff (SMN, Shield Break, etc).

Well, I don't use parser, so my estimate is based on speed of TP gain:

At level 54, my WAR/NIN with acc +40 with meat, my TP gain could still keep up with other WAR/NIN in my party who used sushi at the same level. We could use WS about the same time. Note: the other WAR also equiped with ACC+ gear (2x Viking Axe = acc+ 20).

At level 60, with acc+ between 35 ~ 40, when my TP reach about 70%, my Skillchain partner who used sushi usually is over 100%. It is based on my rough estimate from observation.

The number from above is not parsed, so please don't take the number as fact

To OP:
I am not certain what is your expectation of enough ACC+ gear to switch to ATK Food instead of Sushi. Are your goal is to wear enough ACC+ gear and use ATK food, to match the accuracy of Sushi user, but have higher average damage for each punch than a sushi user? Or, are you okay with lower accuracy, but have a higher average damage for each punch?

[neighbortaru]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

should be fine unless you over-hunt or are the low level member of the melees.

[Karinya]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

However, you can't always control whether this is the case or not, so it's good to be prepared for a variety of situations.

I hate sushi because it makes my attacks so much weaker... but I still carry some, in case I have a party where I can't hit any other way.

For some jobs it is eventually beneficial to macro swapping between different gear for normal hits and for WS, because acc isn't very beneficial to WS; but monk may be an exception because of Raging Fists, or just a lack of good gear to swap for (you really don't want to change belts for example).

[Malacite]

Re: +Acc On MNK Overrated and overpriced?

Genearlly speaking, try to strike a balance based on what's available for that slot;

For instance, a MNK could wear battle gloves while eating meat for a slight accuracy boost, but O.Kote would still be a million times better since 20 attack > 3 accuracy.

Use your discretion when dealing with similar numbers (for example, if one piece has 3 attack and the other has 5 accuracy, I'd go with the opposite of what you're eating. The attack item for sushi, the accuracy item for meat.)