SH or AF

[KoukiRyu]

Re: SH or AF

I was looking at that headgear...but I really don't like the thought of being blinded just for extra crit...but I still kinda wanna try it, lol...but for now, Destroyers+Pahlu+Crit merits will work just fine for me Oh and btw, Pahlu is only reported to add about 1~3% in crit, but after I dinged 72 I noticed a pretty good difference, dunno exactly if that's right, but seems maybe 3% or a lil more :3

[Lmnop]

Re: SH or AF

I don't know if you're built towards sushi or meat, but that blind kabuto fella seems kinda useless to me for a sushi build (if you have acc to spare, meat dishes will help more than some crit rate)... I guess ideally you'd be a meat build with 10 more acc than normal. Too bad people like... never exp in KRT any more, that would make that hat incredible (since you're already blind so much).

SH unfortunately has one major advantage end-game: Monks do evade quite a bit against VT mobs. having a macro for when you have hate that ups agi (for guard as much as for evasion) and evasion would be nice. Nvm, that's what a full Crow set is for.

[Omni]

Re: SH or AF

Pahluwan Khazagand all the way (vs. SH)
anything that ups crit chance is great, especially on mnks since they attack very often and very fast. not to mention, all the multi-hit ws you guys have.

[Elisen]

Re: SH or AF

i dont understand the big fuss over sh. its only an OK improvment over af1 for mnk, heck its only an OK improvement for a lot of other jobs and their alternate body gears. like others have said, if you really really want to blow your gil on sh, go right ahead, no one is stopping you. but from a utility point of view, it isnt all what its cracked up to be.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I borrowed a scorp harness from a friend for about a month while he was on vacation and really the only use I got out of it was when I was first voke for sata and had a really slow thf and nin in my pt. But as soon as sata went off and the nin voked I changed back to my AF.


The only reason I would ever buy a SH is if I planned on tanking/being first voke all the time, or if I had more money than I knew what to do with and wanted it just for bragging rights. But all in all I don't really think SH is all its cracked up to be.

[Loial]

Re: SH or AF

Monk evasion isn't all that bad. If you are pulling hate, you can dodge reasonably well with a SH (not well enough to tank). However, you can get better bang for your buck.

If you have the gil for a SH, look to improve other pieces of gear that might be lacking. If you are using a Spike Necklace, thing about a Chivalrous Chain. Maybe an Ochiudo's Kote instead of AF hands? How about T.M. Hooks+2 or Cross-counters instead of whatever it is you are using?

Upgrades like that is gil better spent. But, I bet if you have all of those, then you WILL be pulling hate and need that extra evasion

[Sinistra]

Re: SH or AF

Well I have decided to post back since this topic has grown pretty bit. I actaully chose to by the SH and so I would know what it was like to use the AF for partys. From what I have seen it works beautifuly. Added Eva though dosnt really help lol I still get hit byt the imps and crap. Hopefully I can sell the SH soon so I can get my Shura Togi :D. Thank you all for the great responses.

[Dryhus]

Re: SH or AF

If you have the gil for a SH, look to improve other pieces of gear that might be lacking. If you are using a Spike Necklace, thing about a Chivalrous Chain.

SH (10 Acc) - AF (5 Acc) = 5 Acc difference
Chivalrous Chain (5 Acc) - Spike Necklace (1.5 Acc) = 3.5 Acc difference

You can argue Store TP, but it's not making a big difference. At 80% Acc, it's an extra 10% TP every 63 rounds. A little under 1.5% TP every minute. You'll never 100% TP sooner than without StoreTP +1. Same goes for 150%, 200%, and 300%. But yes, ultimately it doesn't hurt.

I dunno...I say if you have the money for SH then get the SH...at least rather than spending almost all of it on Chivalrous Chain.

[Vyren]

Re: SH or AF

Migrate to Kujata, they're only 350-400k. XD I think the higher you get, the more the difference in race choice seems to be apparent. I was told by my good 75MNK friend as a mithra I can use SH + focus and have 2 HQSTR rings all the time. I always think Chiv chain is better then PC but that's just personal choice. I think if you're willing to get the money for it, +5acc will always help, but providing you have stuff like brown belt and kote, you can get away with MNK AF body. It's free, so it can't hurt that much. ^^

[Omni]

Re: SH or AF

STR gear has been shown to be less important as u reach 75. Acc is a big key for mnk when letting go of asuran fists. missing 1-2 strikes on asuran is not worth having +10 STR.

i hope your friend doenst tp/ws in str gear.

btw, nice necro post.

[Kildem]

Re: SH or AF

I talk with my monk heart, and i would get the cyclas even if i had kirin osode (let's shoot an importat name just to sound cool lol). So yes, get the cyclas and THEN, if you have the chance, get the harness. Just consider that the cyclas is free, the harness isn't.

[Mog]

Re: SH or AF

I talk with my monk heart, and i would get the cyclas even if i had kirin osode (let's shoot an importat name just to sound cool lol). So yes, get the cyclas and THEN, if you have the chance, get the harness. Just consider that the cyclas is free, the harness isn't.

Congratulations on necroposting in a 9 month old thread.

And if you're a monk and don't have a scorpion harness at 59, shame on you. Farm until you can get enough for it, because it can easily last you until near 75.