Starting with a monk?

[Murphie]

Re: Starting with a monk?

WAR. Although you need to level up your sub as a main job before it's of any use as a SUB. But WAR and MNK both go together very well, so those are both good choices.

Really, this thread already has a ton of great info, and the search function (upper right hand corner of this page) should enable you to find a lot of the answers you're looking for.

[Van'derfel]

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I read somewhere(i think it was ^ there) but it said that WAR wasnt a good sj for monk. I think it said whm was better i cant remember. damn my stupidity.

[Murphie]

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You've got it backwards. WAR is an ideal sub for MNK, and can be used all the way to 75. WHM is a situational sub for MNK during endgame and while soloing.

[Carlo 210]

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You've got it backwards. WAR is an ideal sub for MNK, and can be used all the way to 75. WHM is a situational sub for MNK during endgame and while soloing.

Sounds lke DRG.

[Mog]

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Sounds lke DRG.

This makes no sense at all.

Dragoons are not being mentioned in this thread, and whm IS a situational sub for monk. (high hp, ability to heal your self)

[Tirrock]

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I think he was commenting on how the subs for DRG and MNK are similar. DRG has a bit more versitility on subjobs and isn't forced to sub NIN in high level parties, but other than that...most melee jobs are all forced to sub WAR at one point or another.

I'd sub WAR on WAR if I could. +10% double attack rate, and another 3 minutes of berserk? Sign me up!

[Esoa]

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Monk may be a good starting job to get a feel for the game, but I don't think it's a good first job to take to 75. It's way too expensive too early. At lvl 40 you have sniper rings x2, O. Kote, Brown Belt, Jujitsu Gi...that's about 8-10 million right there. For a first time lvl 40 that is a nearly insurmountable amount of gil to acquire, unless you don't actually like leveling and prefer to take 3+ months to farm. Then once you've gotten to 40ish and given up you are left with a job that is useless to sub. You'd have been better off with almost any other job.

There are other jobs that are very expensive as well but there are plenty that you can take at least to the 60's with far less gil. Most (or all) of the mage classes for example.

[Dryhus]

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Monk may be a good starting job to get a feel for the game, but I don't think it's a good first job to take to 75. It's way too expensive too early. At lvl 40 you have sniper rings x2, O. Kote, Brown Belt, Jujitsu Gi...that's about 8-10 million right there. For a first time lvl 40 that is a nearly insurmountable amount of gil to acquire, unless you don't actually like leveling and prefer to take 3+ months to farm. Then once you've gotten to 40ish and given up you are left with a job that is useless to sub. You'd have been better off with almost any other job.

There are other jobs that are very expensive as well but there are plenty that you can take at least to the 60's with far less gil. Most (or all) of the mage classes for example.

Agreed. At the very least, it's a good first job to take to 30. At that point, you can unlock a number of other jobs that, while not necessarily as easy to play, are somewhat inexpensive and relatively in-demand.

[Skeepz]

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Elvaan mnks do insane Dmg @.@

[Vasilis]

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Sub whm is best for Gods and HNMs where you ned the extra MND for chi blast. Other than that, it isn't that good. MP is not high enough to effectively solo at all, and as stated by Carlo 210 drg can solo due to there Wyvern haveing Healing breath. Monk has Chakra every 3min, the Wyvern can do Healing breath effectively every time you hit 50% life, no mater of the time delay. They have no time delay for Healing breath. Only thing that effects it is TP though. Kinda strange if you ask me. Again I say Imo, mnk can't solo effectively even with whm subbed.

[Tevabond]

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I took monk to 18 and even then some prices were quite hihg.


Purple belt 60k
Republic knuckles 40k
Power Gi 40k

Its not cheap.
i just leveled it first to sub on warrior till 30.
then im switching to paladin...
Its a great Job to learn the ins and outs of FFXI but a first 75 no way.

[Hearshot]

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I took monk to 18 and even then some prices were quite hihg.


Purple belt 60k
Republic knuckles 40k
Power Gi 40k

Its not cheap.
i just leveled it first to sub on warrior till 30.
then im switching to paladin...
Its a great Job to learn the ins and outs of FFXI but a first 75 no way.

But keep in mind these items are good from 15-40, practically. The Cesti can be swapped out for Boreal Cesti at lvl30, a free NM Drop. So you're spending the money up front and early but it pays off.

Look at other jobs, they often upgrade every 3 lvls or so.

[Elisen]

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Granted alot of MNK equipment gets expensive, but like Hearshot said, the equipment you do buy will last for quite a while, particularly the expensive items. The expensive items can last you anywhere from 15-30+ levels depending on what they are.

Also while the "uber gear" is nice and you should eventually get all of it, most people don't expect you to have it as soon as you are withing level range of using it. There are plenty of alternatives you can use until you can get the equip you want. Although I don't suggest leveling too far without stopping to farm for a while to keep you equipment atleast up to date.

[Sylvane]

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While I can agree that monk isn't the best job to level up to 75 first, there are a few reasons why it's a good first job

1 Fairly easy to use, so anyone, even an MMORPG beginner, like I was, could learn how th game works.

2 Fairly quick to level to 18 safely for subjob, then mnk is a viable sub on war.

3 While the gear is expensive, most CAN be crafted with fairly low level clothcraft. I had little problem leveling my cloth to 40 with almost no cash spent, just by farming while I leveled. If something dropped that I needed in an exp party, I just asked, usually it was something that no one really wanted anyway. plus the down time in the dunes is good for crafting, jsut don't get too into it and forget that you're there to kill things.

4 I haven't spent more than 600k on a single item (Spartan Cesti) since I started leveling monk, granted I didn't always have the best gear, but I had no problems with damage. Using meats and sushis when applicable I had great DoT. Most parties I was relegated to just attacking and using my ws about halfwy through the battle, even doing that it seemed I pulled too much hate.

All in all I would say level mnk at least to 18, if you don't like it, get your subjob quest done and try something else, because by then you pretty much know if it's something you'll enjoy.

[Bricklayer]

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3 While the gear is expensive, most CAN be crafted with fairly low level clothcraft. I had little problem leveling my cloth to 40 with almost no cash spent, just by farming while I leveled. If something dropped that I needed in an exp party, I just asked, usually it was something that no one really wanted anyway. plus the down time in the dunes is good for crafting, jsut don't get too into it and forget that you're there to kill things.

From the guide in the clothcrafting section, it seems this is most easily done from Windy. Is that correct? If so, then it would be smart to make your starting city Windurst, or run over there from your respective other starting city early on in the game.