Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

[Dryhus]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

I was thinking of doing alt+tab or disconnecting the Ethernet cable to avoid the 30s delay imposed by /logout. Like both of you said, there's the 30s standby that the server puts on your character if you DC, and I hadn't taken that delay into account. Thanks for pointing that out.

Only exploit I can think of, then, is Boosting outside MH, zoning into MH, logging out, logging back in, zoning out of MH, Boosting, zoning into MH, logging out, logging back in, etc etc etc. It would probably take more than 15 seconds realtime between Boosts, but would probably only expend 10 seconds of gametime between Boosts. When you get close to Boost fading, you'd Flee (as MNK/THF, using Powder Boots, or using Hermes Quencher) outside of town and Chi Blast a mob. Since Chi Blast ignores DEF, you'd get the same numbers on a lv1 mob as you would Kirin.

You'd need a good connection, as Tirrock said, and it'd be useless for anything other than a signature. Again, no idea if this was what Tirrock was even talking about.

:shrug:

[Minaku]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Again, I would like to point out that it does NOT delay you. JAs do NOT delay you unless the JA's activation isn't instant. But, like it's been said before, it's not a good idea to do it constantly either way, because it'll get you hate.

I'm surprised you are so sure of yourself.

Switch to your monk, go engage something, and try it. Boost does indeed insert an extra delay into your attack round. It is not an instant JA like Chi Blast or Provoke. This is common knowledge to anyone who plays monk regularly.

[AngryUndead]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

I was thinking of doing alt+tab or disconnecting the Ethernet cable to avoid the 30s delay imposed by /logout. Like both of you said, there's the 30s standby that the server puts on your character if you DC, and I hadn't taken that delay into account. Thanks for pointing that out.

Only exploit I can think of, then, is Boosting outside MH, zoning into MH, logging out, logging back in, zoning out of MH, Boosting, zoning into MH, logging out, logging back in, etc etc etc. It would probably take more than 15 seconds realtime between Boosts, but would probably only expend 10 seconds of gametime between Boosts. When you get close to Boost fading, you'd Flee (as MNK/THF, using Powder Boots, or using Hermes Quencher) outside of town and Chi Blast a mob. Since Chi Blast ignores DEF, you'd get the same numbers on a lv1 mob as you would Kirin.

You'd need a good connection, as Tirrock said, and it'd be useless for anything other than a signature. Again, no idea if this was what Tirrock was even talking about.

:shrug:

I think the problem with this would be that you can only hit a mob over the limit of its HP by so much. So you'd probably not see 3000dmg on a small little mob.

Wait, according to that formula, One boost with 60MND would = at least 60 Dmg? I've never done my mind in Chi Blast with one boost before, is this only after a certain lv or am I missing something?o.O

60 * (1 * 0.75 + 1) = 105. One boost with AF Gloves
60 * (1 * 0.25 + 1) = 75. One boost w/o AF Gloves

Note: I don't think the Formula is perfect.

(Chi Blast counts as a strike so it's effected by Boost.)

Yes, but don't associate it with Attack.

[Tirrock]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

I will say that the exploit has nothing to do with moogles or mog houses. >_>a It was all done in sky. (But cannot be done on any of the sky gods.)

Edit: I haven't even tried it myself, I don't like risking my character... Although the person that was talking about it in the linkshell isn't known to lie.

[Aeolus]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

I'm surprised you are so sure of yourself.

Switch to your monk, go engage something, and try it. Boost does indeed insert an extra delay into your attack round. It is not an instant JA like Chi Blast or Provoke. This is common knowledge to anyone who plays monk regularly.

Thanks, didnt wanna charge in an point that out myself as I wasnt 100% sure but then Sneak Attack does add delay and its a JA

[Dryhus]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

I think the problem with this would be that you can only hit a mob over the limit of its HP by so much. So you'd probably not see 3000dmg on a small little mob.

This isn't true. I'm not even sure where you would have heard this. BLMs test damage on level 1 mobs, because they're essentially the only mobs the stats of which you can control by minimizing to 1 with an elemental debuff. They get higher damage on a level 1 mob than almost any other mob in the game, with the exception of double magic damage mobs like goldfish.

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I'm surprised you are so sure of yourself.

Switch to your monk, go engage something, and try it. Boost does indeed insert an extra delay into your attack round. It is not an instant JA like Chi Blast or Provoke. This is common knowledge to anyone who plays monk regularly.

I don't think any JA is instant. I think their effects are instant. When you Provoke a mob, it turns red instantly but you still have to watch the animation. When you Provoke something, I'm pretty sure you have the same 1sec delay as any other JA.

When you Sharpshot+Barrage, you put a /wait 1 between them.
When you SATA, you put a /wait 1 between them.
When you Boost+WS, you put a /wait 1 between them.
When you Convert+CureIV, you put a /wait 1 between them.

[Aeolus]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

I agree with Angryundead. Altho I have seen Blm do the above mentioned I have also myself done a Fully boosted Chi Blast with AF gloves on and Mnd songs from my Brd friend and done something ridiculous like 200 on a lv1 mob when I can do 300-500 on IT mobs with the same set up.

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When you Sharpshot+Barrage, you put a /wait 1 between them.
When you SATA, you put a /wait 1 between them.
When you Boost+WS, you put a /wait 1 between them.
When you Convert+CureIV, you put a /wait 1 between them.

So when I just use sneak attack how come it takes ages to strike afterwards. The only time sneak attack doesnt delay your next attack is when you are already swinging, like just started to swing, then it hits straight away. Boost is also the same, takes about the same time as a sneak attack does after you have used it.

[AngryUndead]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

This isn't true. I'm not even sure where you would have heard this. BLMs test damage on level 1 mobs, because they're essentially the only mobs the stats of which you can control by minimizing to 1 with an elemental debuff. They get higher damage on a level 1 mob than almost any other mob in the game, with the exception of double magic damage mobs like goldfish.

Then explain why I can hit a TW level 30 mob for 700 with a WS, but a TW level 5 mob for only 200 or so. At least with Physical Damage you can only overkill by a certain percentage.

[Tirrock]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Multi-hit WS stop hitting after enough damage is done to kill the monster. So with a level 5 monster, it'd take one hit of raging fists to kill it. Before guppies, the stuff I could get highest damage on (other than boreal hound) as SMN was Liches, because they had enough HP to survive all 3 hits of flaming crush.

[Aeolus]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Multi-hit WS stop hitting after enough damage is done to kill the monster. So with a level 5 monster, it'd take one hit of raging fists to kill it. Before guppies, the stuff I could get highest damage on (other than boreal hound) as SMN was Liches, because they had enough HP to survive all 3 hits of flaming crush.

I dont think thats true either. A lv 1 mob outside of the city barely has 100Hp never mind 200Hp. RagingFists can do 300 on the pugs outside Sandy.

[Tirrock]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Because the first hit would be doing 300 damage... Or perhaps in monk's case, first two hits. All MNK WS are at least two hits.

[Aeolus]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Ah, I get you now. Makes sense but how come it stops ChiBlast, its dmg isnt physical is it?

[steveyos666]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Why doesn't SE just tell us all of this stuff, so we don't have to guess?

:/

[Tirrock]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Chiblast is chiblast. I don't know why I can chiblast snoll-tzar for 500 damage on 11 boosts and then get a 250 on a low level sheep outside of tavnazia on 12...

[AngryUndead]

Re: Does Boost count towards normal attacks?

Because the first hit would be doing 300 damage... Or perhaps in monk's case, first two hits. All MNK WS are at least two hits.

Oh, yea, makes sense.