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**Kittyneko** · 05-10-2006, 03:21 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

I think this forum will stay quiet for a while lol.. unless you get more annoying people like me to reply. Anyway, if you have fun tanking as Monk, feel free.. but at higher levels you get a /pcmd kick if you decide to tank. I advise you to be prepared and have DD gear ready, for when you're not a tank. Not many people want you as tank, even if you're good, they don't even want to try. It is a nice idea, but only till a certain level.

**ChimeraOfLakshmi** · 05-10-2006, 03:25 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

When I was playing, my second character was a Galkan MNK as well. And I enjoyed tanking very much, but never really got the recognition or seriousness I thought that I deserved. When I start up again (21st /hurray) I was thinking about doing MNK again, just not too sure on the Race, as I also want to play my main (Blm).

**Jei** · 05-10-2006, 03:34 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

In normal situnation, Mnk has the HP and Vit. But that couldn't off set their poor defense. You can take more hits, but for massive damage every hits. Putting all the hard work on healers.

guard and counter will become much more reliable if you get all the +counter gears and merits. But that is still a long way ahead.

**AngryUndead** · 05-10-2006, 03:37 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

Oh sweet lord.

Gotta love persistance though.

You guys will find out soon enough.

**Fathands** · 05-10-2006, 03:44 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

I just hopes he stays off the paladin boards this time =/

**AngryUndead** · 05-10-2006, 03:56 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

Hope... there is always hope.

**Aeni** · 05-10-2006, 03:57 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

It's viable, but only on certain mobs and in certain situations. You need to gear up (Will run in the millions) and have a lot of skills at or near cap on each level, which is almost impossible for any MNK (Especially with Guard skill) Also, the level of monsters that you fight should not exceed low IT (In fact, it was suggested before that you limit to strictly VTs)

If your style of play is 30% less exp per kill but a really fast hit-and-go style, then I think tanking as a MNK *can* work. But like I said, it's a lot more complicated than just donning an SH and subbing WAR.

Edit:

Oh yes, the reason why I posted was that I had the exact same question as you two years ago, when my static then was heavily debating on MNK tank and getting a BLM to round out the party. In the end, we did not have enough finance to gear the MNK up in order to do this and went with a PLD to forego the BLM option.

Let me tell you, not having a BLM certainly hurted a lot.

BTW, there was a player on KI forum who was regarded with much respect in the area of MNK'ing (Like certain players for other job classes, like iMac2Much on the PLD board here and ApplePie in the RDM forum) and the suggestions I'm giving were pretty much the basic meat of what he told me in various PMs and forum postings.

**Valrath** · 05-10-2006, 04:02 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

Please, just stop breathing. Stop wasting oxygen that could be used by someone important. A mnk tanking is like a nin tanking with just ichi. Yes, it could work, but it'll take the right gear, person, teamwork and mobs to work, and that just doesn't happen.

But meh, arguing with you is just a waste of my time, so I'll say 2 answers. yes, it could work in theory, no it can work in practice.

edit: stay off the pld forum with your pld/blm bs. I will spare you no mercy there

**AngryUndead** · 05-10-2006, 04:09 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

Yet another person full of Jhingy love.

**Jei** · 05-10-2006, 04:27 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

calm down, guys, don't be harsh

**tdh** · 05-10-2006, 04:29 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

There's a MNK in my LS who's tanked to Lv.65 with a static. He used Cross-Counters, other Count+ gear, and the Carapace set. So at certain levels, his DEF was pretty outragous. He kept Defender up, but still did pretty good damage. I was pretty impressed with him from Lv.61 to Lv.65. At the time his Guard skill was about 40 below cap.

The static then "broke" as the members changed what jobs they were doing. WHM was tired of being a WHM, so she leveled NIN, DRG became the WHM, and the THF became SAM. The MNK deleveled to Lv.55 to join the reorganized static, and they started all over again. (Yeah, I couldn't believe he was Lv.65 one night, next day I ask if he wants to party and he's Lv.55!) Now he and the NIN trade tanking duties. Sometimes the NIN goes DD, and MNK tanks, or other times MNK goes all out and the NIN tanks. I think his Guard is now about 10 below cap @ Lv.70.

But he was doing really good in Bibiki Bay in the early 60's. I haven't partied with them in a long time since I kept leveling, they're all Lv.70 now farming tests. But it can be done, and I've seen it done very well actually. But I don't think he could have tanked in Crabs in the Tree, or Raptors, or DRK & WAR type Gobbys.

**AngryUndead** · 05-10-2006, 04:40 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

I think we'll take it in a measured stride. People here have listened to him before, and we all migrated probably around the same time as he did.

No real reason to get ones panties in a knot, especially as a monk forum vetran... just not a vetran from here.

Double Post Edited:

Originally posted by tdh

There's a MNK in my LS who's tanked to Lv.65 with a static. He used Cross-Counters, other Count+ gear, and the Carapace set. So at certain levels, his DEF was pretty outragous. He kept Defender up, but still did pretty good damage. I was pretty impressed with him from Lv.61 to Lv.65. At the time his Guard skill was about 40 below cap.

Oh, sure, Jhingy starts out sounding fairly reasonable.... but then.... he has one crazy idea after another.

At least its a laugh a minute with that guy.

**Jinghles** · 05-10-2006, 05:20 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

:: chews on a ham sammich ::

to be at the top of your game, if you are going to mnk tank ... having capped defensive skills are a good choice

evasion caps effortlessly when you tank

guard is another story

how many mnks reading have experienced mnk tanking when their guard skill is current with their level?

:: chew ::

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dear moderators,

if you find my topic of choice is objectionable for discussion, please post and let me know

i consider my OP non inflammatory, and i'm only inviting discussion on a topic that interests me

i am seeing that several posters replying to this thread already exhibit a premeditated intent to 'get me' ... if it's my imagination, please let me know

i can see that the moderators of this forums do actually moderate this forums ...

i ask you moderators to objectively form your opinion of me by judgin me by MY OWN posts

i have found over time that ppl have the tendency to 'reword' my posts and twist them to no end to justify their rebuttals

i ask for a moderator to respond to my concern when you have a moment

^^

jingy
ifrit

**Jei** · 05-10-2006, 05:29 PM

Re: Jingy on mnk tanking ... guard/counter/etc...

your posts are totally fine for me. ^^
What you have to worry about is if the discussion heats up too far, goes too much off topics or turns into flame wars. As long as the discussions are kept clean, I'm not going to close them or anything.

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