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  • Counter questions.

    Everyone knows that the damage system is. Evade > Parry > Utsu > Shield > Hit.

    But what about monk? Does counter or evade come first? Is it Counter > Evade > Parry/Guard > Hit, or Evade > Counter > Parry/Guard > Hit. Parry/Guard is cause MNK using non h2h weapon would parry while using h2h would guard, so in the sense they are in same category for MNK.. So does anyone know anything about this?

    And how does the counter + stuff works? AF2 boots has Enhance Counterstance, Crosscounters, Avenger's Earrings, Aikido Koshita would give +9 counter, how much does it help? How many + does Counterstance add to counter? Is Enhance Counterstance as shitty as Enhance Berserk, ie, reduce less defence?

    What is the relationship between guarding skills and counter? I've heard that higher guarding skills would increase chance of counter, so how is the relationship exactly like? Or is it just an urban myth? Hopefully some uber MNK can help me with this.
    Last edited by Synbios; 09-22-2005, 08:59 AM.
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  • #2
    Re: Counter questions.

    Evade > Utsusemi > Counter.
    Doing this mathematically,
    Evade > Parry > Utsusemi > Counter > Hit. The only thing I can't plug in is Shield.

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    • #3
      Re: Counter questions.

      Evasion > utsusemi > counter > guard > blazespike > stoneskin > direct hit

      based on JP MNK-specific site.

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      • #4
        Re: Counter questions.

        Evasion > Parry > utsusemi > counter > guard > blazespike > stoneskin > direct hit then,
        Shield being somewhere between Utsusemi and Direct Hit...but you're a MNK and can only equip the level 30 "All Jobs" BCNM Shields, so I dont think this matters.

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        • #5
          Re: Counter questions.

          Shield is applied at the same stage as Guard...as they do the same thing now.

          Edit: Also it's impossible to Shield and Guard at the same time...so deciding which has priority is impossible as well.
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          • #6
            Re: Counter questions.

            you can evade or guard but still counter the attack. but you cannot counter attacks that are absorbed by utsusemi. you can also counter attack on a mob/player that you are not engaged on if they are attacking you.

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