Monk-rich

[Ticks]

I've been hearing alot of folks saying that monk is now one of the most expensive jobs in the game...I am finding it to be quite expensive myself and reading the monks standards just got lower thread, I am starting to get alittle worried that my days of farming are going to be sunrise to sunset soon just to stay respectable equipment-wise.
Is this true?

[Aeolus]

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Monk equip is pretty much questable or campable. Only things you need to farm for are Scorpion Harness and rings ect/synthed weapons. Alot of monks go w/o the Scorp Harness anyway.

[InuTrunks]

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"Alot of monks go w/o the Scorp Harness anyway."

Every monk I've seen uses it off and on for TP gain over their AF body.

[Aeolus]

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Its almost 8mil on my server and there really isnt any way to farm effectively as it seems the things you farm dont make THAT much that u could get that kinda money easily. AF body isnt that bad neway, I party basically Thf Mnk Nin 3mages from 64-70 and about 2 monks had SH, many did not even have okote as its botted by the most amazing gillsellers, its not like other peoples bots beat theres and its almost impossible to get claim never mind drop.

[Lmnop]

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SH is currently almost 10 mil on my server. That for +5 acc over AF body just doesn't seem worth it to me. Also, Kote are not always the ideal choice considering how much benefit Monks get from STR. I think ~55, a mnk using AF will perform just as well as a kote monk(in some cases better, depending on equip/food build).

Anywho, those are 2 items I don't see as quite worth it. Though buying Kote at 40ish (I think like 4 mil on my server but I'll have to check) and selling in the 50s to fund Snipers is a good path. Also, Kyahan and Gi are nice, and not super expensive and nice for their duration, Brown Belt is questable around 50 if you have a wee bit of help, and life belt is cheap.

[Ticks]

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So hanging in there for the AF sounds good to me because I sure cant afford the Kotes or SH. I do have the Jujitsu Gi and pants with a life belt hoping they will hold me for a bit because I went broke buying them. I got the AF weapon which seems to be a let down for its damage. I find it hard to save gil when buying the sushi though but finding it necessary for accuracy...sigh...I love playing monk but I hope I can keep up with the cost. It would be a great disappointment to me to have to quit playing a job I love because I can't afford to.

[neighbortaru]

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I got the AF weapon which seems to be a let down for its damage.

LOL I think all jobs have this problem

[ibroyles]

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Indeed, most folks wind up tossing their AF1. I keep mine for sentimental purposes, and the off chance it may be useful for a level capped event.

[Honne]

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When I first got the game and decided I was gonna be a MNK I remember a friend (75RDM, 75RNG) saying "Oh MNK is a really cheap job to level." .......he was a filthy liar! I found myself taking 2 very looong breaks from lvling to farm. The first was to get my O. kotes, brown belt, life belt (yes, I switch between both), and jujitsu gi. Now at lvl 55 I am stuck again farming for a victory ring and sh /sigh. After about 2 weeks i'm up to 500k so i'm starting to lose hope. If anyone knows any good farming spots please let me know. Until then i'll continue to provide the ragnarok server with silk thread and tree cuttings.

[Redlimit]

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Scorpion Harness is an extravagance for most MNK. It gives you +5 more ACC than your AF body, and thats it. The EVA boost is wasted on you completely. You never ever need this equipment in an EXP situation, and there are better equipment choices for HNM fights.

Kote are the best hand equipment from 34-52, but after that you are much better off with your AF Gloves. They do come at a hefty price though, but an amazing alternative (and an inexpensive one) are Battle Gloves. You get a lot of mileage out of +3 ACC in that level range and it works great.

Jujitsu Gi prices are spiraling out of control on most servers, and this is pretty bad for MNK as its a really good piece of equipment. Again though, you can make do without. You can always grab a Tilt Belt at 40 for an ACC boost in the same range as the Gi. You can try to camp it with some friends (55+), but the droprate isn't that great so don't expect too much.

Finally, Brown Belt can be soloed at level 52 as a MNK. You will need to use Hundred Fists on all three of the NMs but you will win no problems against all of them.

All jobs are expensive to play nowadays, even MNK - but at least we get some workarounds...whereas a lot of jobs do not.

[Kildem]

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SOMEONE can really toss the AF??? crazy.....
Anyway, when monk became "expensive"?
Sure, if you plan to buy 2 sniper rings, scorpion harness, and all the equipment + that you found, obviously become expensive!
Personally a monk don't need every statistics to the top, just the basic things for not dying in the first one-on-one you do with an enemy.
Redlimit said it in another thread already, there is a big difference between "a necessary" equipment, and something that you just want to possess or that someone told you is good having.

[Honne]

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Of course this stuff isnt "necassary", but why not have it? Everyone seems so content on getting the basics. If your gonna play the job play it to its max and not just to get to lvl 75 as fast as you can. Every stat helps! Sure i'll take more evasion with the scorpion harness! If I am the 1st voker for SATA that maybe one less cure thrown my way, an extra 2 VIT with a masters sitbaki +1? Why not? It may only help in the smallest bit but if everyone in the pt gives that extra inch it makes a huge difference. Now I am in no way saying to boost your stats evenly, but if you have a choice between +5 ACC and +10 ACC take the extra effort to get the 10! Don't be an average MNK, do the job proud. On top of making you that much better, when it comes time to get that next peice of body armor (SH as an example) you have 6.5mil to put towards it by selling your last piece.

[Redlimit]

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The reason why you shouldn't worry about having a Scorpion Harness versus your regular AF Body is that no one will care at all if you have the Harness. Perhaps you can justify paying 5+ million gil for +5 ACC to yourself, but myself and many others cannot.

In the long run, you shouldn't be doing anything that is vastly getting in the way of regular leveling. There is no point in suddenly stopping at 57 and farming for a Harness. If you ever manage to get that much gil on your way to 75 (and after that) then go ahead if you want, but again the harness is 99.9% for looks only on MNK. Its not like you are going to wear it at 75 to EXP - everything should already be reading low evasion that you will be fighting. Its useless in HNM fights as there are many more vastly superior pieces of equipment to wear instead.

Its optional. If you want to take the time to buy every last piece of +1 gear out there as you level up, be my guest - but you will only wear yourself out with work and worry over something that does not matter in the end. You should have fun playing MNK, not treating it like a job slaving over farming hours on end.

[Honne]

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"The reason why you shouldn't worry about having a Scorpion Harness versus your regular AF Body is thiat no one will care at all if you have the Harness.
......except me. Like I said before, everyone is content on what you need to get by or "good enough", which is fine. But to all you going the extra mile I say good on ya!
Oh and by the way, gardening finally paid off and the brown belt quest is complete. That belt will bring in a good chunk of what i need for the SH if not all. Or I could sell the O. kotes since I have AF gloves. So I guess taking the time farming for them did pay off!

[Lmnop]

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Not to mention that AF body is better for being Trick buddy than SH. one higher defense, 5 more hp, and +VIT which will be more useful than +10 evade considering how low the chances are of dodging an attack from most leveling mobs...

I'm all for pimping out your job, but there's a limit. When 5-10 mil gil ups your accuracy from 87% to 89%, the logic is failing. It's really the difference between a dark knight getting a haubergeon and a haubergeon +1. Sure, +1 Dex +1 Str, +2 accuracy, +2 attack is definately better. But is it worth the extra millions? The haub wearing DDs are respected for having the NQ, the +1 is just stupid. It's a luxury and a status. The SH vs AF is the same in my eyes. except your AF happens to be free.

Bottom line: if I see someone farming up their SH because they think it'll really increase their monk's performance in Exp party, I'ma shoot 'em. Meanwhile, I do enjoy Kote 'til 50.