Final H2H Relic Upgrade Obtained

[Nao]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...6202391&num=36

Dunno if anyone's seen this yet. Also, can't find any information on the hidden procs (if there are any like the relic bow).

[CarbonFibre]

Since Final Heaven appears to be a one-hit weaponskill, I'll assume it would do pretty good damage with THF sub closing light.

[Fox the Sly]

All Monk H2H weapon skills are at least 2 hits though, but still. Man, I'd love to see it in real-time action. ^______________^

[pooq]

Originally posted by Fox the Sly
All Monk H2H weapon skills are at least 2 hits though,

Unles I am mistaken Shoulder Tackle and One Inch Punch are one hit:p

[LadyPeorth]

Originally posted by pooq
Unles I am mistaken Shoulder Tackle and One Inch Punch are one hit:p

Sadly, you are slightly mistaken. Although it looks like one hit, it is actually 2. I've missed one hit on both Shoulder Tackle and One Inch Punch, although because most people rarely use them, you really can't see it

[ZQM]

Originally posted by LadyPeorth
Sadly, you are slightly mistaken. Although it looks like one hit, it is actually 2. I've missed one hit on both Shoulder Tackle and One Inch Punch, although because most people rarely use them, you really can't see it

Well, the weaponskill themselves are 1 hit. It's the fact you're use h2h to do it which makes them two. Having an offhand weapon (Dualwielding another weapon, or using h2h which puts a weapon on both hands) allows that offhand weapon to be included in the weaponskill.

Kind hard to explain so I hope that makes sense. :x

[Lone Dragon]

If that were the case, Combo, Raging Fists, and Asuran Fists would get in 1 more hit than the help message says.
TP returns show this is clearly not the case.

However, it could be the help messages essentially 'lie' to us and are actually 1 hit less to start with, the offhand hit compensating for it.

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Lone Dragon
If that were the case, Combo, Raging Fists, and Asuran Fists would get in 1 more hit than the help message says.
TP returns show this is clearly not the case.

TP return does show that they get an extra hit.

TP return of Asuran Fists is 17% TP on my friend's MNK that I play on. If it didn't add an extra hit, that would only give 12% TP (5% for the first hit, 7% for the rest of the hits). However, it gives 17%. Where does that extra 5% TP come from? The off-hand punch. 5% (Main hand) + 5% (offhand) + 7% (Rest) = 17% TP

EDIT:

Just to further proof this, that off-hand extra hit can miss. How else would you explain getting 8-9% TP returns?

[bleegh]

17% = 11% (for normal 2hit round) + 6%

All monk WS are at least 2 hits. My normal hit round is 5% + 5%. Howling fist, Dragon kick, One-inch Punch, Bakhand blow, Shoulder Tackle all give 0, 5, or 10% TP back, depending on how many hits land.

[LadyPeorth]

Dragon Kick is a two-hit weapon skill. It returns 5, 10, or 11.

Originally posted by ZQM
Well, the weaponskill themselves are 1 hit. It's the fact you're use h2h to do it which makes them two. Having an offhand weapon (Dualwielding another weapon, or using h2h which puts a weapon on both hands) allows that offhand weapon to be included in the weaponskill.

Kind hard to explain so I hope that makes sense. :x

Best way to put it is the extra hit in Rampage you get from dual weilding Axes.

[ZQM]

Testing it more, I was wrong and I appologize for that. Like bleegh said, the first two hits give me 11%, not 10% like I thought (The only time I play on my friend's account is to solo so the TP isn't something I really pay attention to). I've been leveling my own MNK lately, and Combo's give the same result (12% TP (11% TP gained from first two hits+1% from third hit)).

[frogfromsaturn]

Hmm.. So I've landed Dragon Kick for 5% 11% and 12%. What would the extra 1% mean for the last one?

[Mikeb]

Originally posted by frogfromsaturn
Hmm.. So I've landed Dragon Kick for 5% 11% and 12%. What would the extra 1% mean for the last one?

Double attack kicked in...

[Bones]

Re: Final H2H Relic Upgrade Obtained

Dont u get more tp for Critical hits

[Lmnop]

Re: Final H2H Relic Upgrade Obtained

no