50-60 leveling monk is depressing

[Brennon]

There are other bones in gustav as well, i forget what they're called. I'm guessing theyd be good for exp at around lvl 57 or so.

Ah, you got to 57? Grats ^^ I don't ever try to level MNK during the week, as I don't get to put much time into the game during the week, busy work schedule and all. If you've got some AF to work on I may catch up to you though, as I've got all but one piece ^^

[KamaAina]

Yeh I need to find my garliage coffer (which is always a pain stupid banishing gate) and then do MNK af3 (orngoul is doing it I think this week so I am gonna try to tage a long if you dont have it you are welcome to come I bet). At 59 I might stop too and try to get spectacles but I bet I won't need them till 61/62 (toromas) anyways.

I could always sell my CC's and get Spartans and then I would have the gil.. but I love my CC's and counterstance so much ; ;.

[Redlimit]

I would switch CC's for Spartans at 58. No questions asked.

Same damage, same +acc, and more money because of it - you can't really go wrong there - especially if you are going to buy Spectacles with the money.

The +Counter is cute, but from 70-75 you get access to a lot of +Counter gear. I have found none of it to be terribly useful, its just kind of an extra thing to have.

CC's aren't a showpiece anymore once you get past 58.

[KamaAina]

Well technically CC's have one more acc I think +3 instead of +2. They have shorter delay (but spartans have 2 more dmg so it evens out). And I love counter, but I use counterstance alot and most monks don't.

I dont know if its a good thing or not, I don't use it if the mob has a bad special attack (sickle slash with counterstance ouch >.<). But counterstance with the +7 counter I have does make a huge difference, and counterstance is one of the main reasons I am sticking with monk instead of RNG (cause I don't just get slapped around I can slap back).

I dont know how good it will be at later levels, but just the other day in kuftal I was countering 4/5 times, (we had nin tank and I was trick buddy ... which ended up getting even more hate lol). It is just a lot of fun, and I actually look forward to turning the mob so that I can counter it.

I might stick with CC's the whole way until I get avengers and shiva's claws and even then I think I am going to keep them cause there are situations when you just take agro you know?

[KamaAina]

Actually you might be right Red and when I hit 59 I am going to look at prices.

CC are nice but they are luxury, and I would feel stupid having them when I could have Spectacles/brown belt setup. I still want CC's but I can always buy them later once I get gil agian, and after farming and doing tons of BCNM's to get Scorpion Harness... /sigh im not looking forward to doing it agian soon.

I think my priorities should be

Spectacles
Brown belt
Scorpion Harness
Wu Long shoes +1 (I dont know about these though they seem neat maybe just the non plus one but I want some kind of kick boots just cause they seem funner then fuma or AF)
Cross Counters
2x Sniper Rings (sold them when I got scorp harness, and they might be useful if I went up agianst something with impossible evasion)

What do you think about that. What should I focus on you think, I just don't want to be running around with a few multi million gil items and neglecting something that is more important.

[Redlimit]

Spectacles can and should be your #1 priority. MNK only really get 2 other equipment options for Neck (and only 1 other option if you arent from Sandoria): Spike Necklace, and Grand T.K. Collar. Spectacles certainly put both of those to shame.

I'm amazed you don't have a Brown Belt yet actually. If I had a Scorpion Harness at your level I would have slapped on the Brown Belt instantly (replacing Life Belt, since Life and Harness have the same +Acc). Brown Belt is pretty much one of the best equip that only MNK have access to. Once you get past 72 you should be able to wear it all the time in place of a Life Belt (everything should read Low Evasion to you at this point).

You can do without the Snipers. In Dynamis I have no trouble hitting monsters with little more than Life Belt, Shivas Claws, and AF Body. Anything with higher evasion than those you will likely be using Chi Blast against.

Your Feet equipment slot will never ever be spectacular as a MNK sadly. We get +5 Attack (Rasetsu Shoes), +Dodge (AF), +Counterstance (AF2), Haste (Fuma), or +Kick (Dune, Kung Fu, Wulong).
None of them are that great. The enhanced kick damage is nice, but even with AF2 Pants that give increased chance to kick you still only kick once a battle on average. Its not worth it to use the feet slot for that I think.

By the way I noticed in the other thread that you had MNK friends who beat Maat by "countering 5 times"....
This is simply not true. I fought Maat twice and I countered him 5 times in the first battle (and lost a few seconds later), and countered 7 times in the 2nd (and went on to win by taking away all of his HP). If there is a way to win by using Counter, its a hell of a lot more than 5....likely more like 15 or more which is pretty much impossible. I had +12 Counter from gear and Counterstance active and I only countered him 7 times.....

[Biterman]

Originally posted by AkumuX
Biter, why are you stirring up the shit? You're completely off-topic, aiming to piss someone off, and quoting a quote that wasn't made in his/her last post.

So...please explain to me what you're doing here.

*shrugs* I thought it was on topic. ;p (but yeah, I can see I went a tad off my way to make a personal remark)

A mithra MNK not willing/liking to be trick or puller, feeling the need to "educate" a PT to go out of their way to fit around a specific job, dont want/like to PT with a THF. All perfect reasons why PT leaders rather not bother with MNK's and go with the tried and true at 50-60.

I do understand some of her/his points, mnk are not built to pull, not the best trick buddies, but hey, if not you who else, the BLM?. And come on, THF is a great SC finisher. SATA viper bite is always consistent damage which makes Distortion do great damage even on crabs. Yes, RF can do solid damage but since it multi hit I have seen it do 100 dmg flat(not enterily sure if that is the reason why it can suck).

So yes, all this can be unfair to monks but you have to see the other side of the coin as well.

Oh one last point. My SP has level on crabs (with some other mobs thrown in the mix) since we were 52. Distortion with WaterIII/Blizzaga II always ends up owning the little buggers unless they have curtain up. Then we hound and/or slap around the rdm, laugh and move on. Chain #5 with relative ease, it only slows down to #4 if the RNG gets unlucky and misses too many Sidewinders.

[Brennon]

MNK af3 (orngoul is doing it I think this week so I am gonna try to tage a long if you dont have it you are welcome to come I bet).

That'd be fantastic! ^^ *please* send me a tell if i'm online, i'd love to come

[JayblahX]

Originally posted by Redlimit
By the way I noticed in the other thread that you had MNK friends who beat Maat by "countering 5 times"....
This is simply not true. I fought Maat twice and I countered him 5 times in the first battle (and lost a few seconds later), and countered 7 times in the 2nd (and went on to win by taking away all of his HP). If there is a way to win by using Counter, its a hell of a lot more than 5....likely more like 15 or more which is pretty much impossible. I had +12 Counter from gear and Counterstance active and I only countered him 7 times.....

My winning Maat fight had me counter him seventeen (yes, 17) times. I'm pretty sure "Countering to Win" is a bunch of bull, unless its some ridiculous number that most Monks have no hope of achieving in the Maat battle.

[Redlimit]

My thoughts exactly.

[KamaAina]

lol. Well he did it or at least said he did. So I don't know I wasn't there with him, and I don't really care. And I don't see any reason why two of my friends would ask to borrow all of my counter gear, and then say they won by countering when they didn't...

Maybe it was 10 counters I really don't know. But they didn't take screenshots and I didn't ask them to so oh well maybe you can't thats how I am gonna try to win though since they both did it so easily that way. Maybe they meant that they countered him enough that he died. They asked to borrow all my counter gear, and then after they won I asked them if they beat it by killing them and they said lol no. There are ways to beat maat without defeating him I think its whm's that just have to stay alive for x amount of time or something.

Oh and I don't have brown belt because without life belt I can't hit that accuratley, unless I have a bard. And even then without life I hit a little less and my raging fists (which is only ws I really use right now) is pretty inconsistent. I had one but I sold it to get my scorpion harness.

Oh and we are doing MNK af3 sunday night I believe there is a post on killingifrit.com

do you guys think I should get those one braclets with +STR - DEX since I have so much acc? BTW you are right I do need brown belt, I was in a party with Mczu the other day and she was just pulling hate off me all the time (it was a bone party, PLD was good but 700 dmg RF's kinda get the mob's attention). My plan all along was once I get my spectacles to get brown too but I might just do that once I hit 58 (6k tnl). I guess I will sell my CC's and I suppose while I am at it my avenger's too (no use in using counterstance with only +2 counter). So that should give me enough hopefully for spec's, brown belt, and spartan's.