Cursed Armor for Monks...

[Orsin]

Hmm... Well while waiting in Jeuno for parties I decided to just look up some stats on various armors and found one that I particularly liked. The second I saw the stats on this I wondered why I had never seen anyone in the entire game wearing it or heard anything about someone trying to get it. Sure it was a cursed armor so of course it will be hard to get... but... anyway here are the stats

Head: Shura Zunari Kabuto Level 73+ DEF:20 HP-25 STR+5 Accuracy+5
Body: Shura Togi Level 73+ DEF:40 HP-50 Accuracy+10 Attack+20
Hands: Shura Kote Level 73+ DEF:16 HP-20 Accuracy+4 Enhances Resist Paralyze effect.
Legs: Shura Haidate Level 73+ DEF:30 HP-35 STR+5 Accuracy+7
Feet: Shura Sune-ate Level 73+ DEF:16 HP-20 Accuracy+4 Enhances Resist Gravity effect.

Sure a few pieces may not be the "best" but most of it is spectacular armor.

Now my real question... Why don't more Monks go after this armor? I have not yet seen one Monk, or anything else for that matter, running around with it on. Sure it's cursed armor... but so is Koenig and Zenith and I see plenty of people wearing pieces of that...

So there has to be some big reason why they wouldn't try to get this armor... so... what is that reason?

[Dano]

posibility 1: Very little people has cloth craft 100, you need to have a craft of 100 to make the curse armors and cloth craft is not that hot on most servers, it's very little compare to smithing and goldsmithing, i only recall 1 mithra that has 99 clothcraft on my server she's at 99.5 something

posibility 2: Monks/Sams/Nins can do good without them, monk will probably need em more, Sams can buy the haugeron armor at early lvls (forgot how to spell the name,) Nins would rather get the scorpion harness then take the -hp hit, since monks & sams are not necessary for HNM fights, no one really cares about them

the only piece i think that's worth getting is the body piece and the head piece maybe, the decurse item drops from kirin, which is well... like a dream that can never come tru.

[Strifey]

incredibly hard to obtain ive only seen one monk on my server with a piece.

[Orsin]

All your statements are true... but if Koenig armor is attainable wouldn't this be too? I have seen someone get two pieces of Koenig in probably a little more than a week.

Also it's not clothcraft that makes this, it's woodworking =\

[Dano]

was it woodworking ? my bad then, well if that's tru that's even worse, woodworking is even less popular

edit: as for the koeing in 2 weeks, i would only say it's becoz the armor has a purpose, it's for tanking, tanking what ? HNM of coz. So the earlier you get em, the better right ? now we all know physical dmg barely do anything to HNMs like fafnir, kirin... etc, further more we are not wanted for HNM hunts, who would bother getting stuff that's not important (for HNM fights) ? Monks, sams are like the lowest priority in these fights, so well... too bad.

[Strifey]

pld only have to split koenig with themselves as it has no use for warriors usually, they're always pld in those fights somehow mnks arnt always in these fights for one and its split by mnk/sam/nin

[2.0]

Originally posted by Dano
was it woodworking ? my bad then, well if that's tru that's even worse, woodworking is even less popular

edit: as for the koeing in 2 weeks, i would only say it's becoz the armor has a purpose, it's for tanking, tanking what ? HNM of coz. So the earlier you get em, the better right ? now we all know physical dmg barely do anything to HNMs like fafnir, kirin... etc, further more we are not wanted for HNM hunts, who would bother getting stuff that's not important (for HNM fights) ? Monks, sams are like the lowest priority in these fights, so well... too bad.

Dano. I'm sorry but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Monks are by far the best melee against HNM's. I should not have to explain to you how useful chi blast is in these battles. No offense but your statements have effectively proven to me that experience does not =skill.

[2.0]

As for the Cursed Armor the most useful pieces for Monk are the leg and head piece (they add strength and accuracy) but to get the abjurations for those pieces you have to kill aspidochelone and byakko (maybe nidhogg too)who're all pretty fucking hard.

And to make the dryadic cursed armor you need divine logs(to make divine lumber) which you only get from killing the tu'lia gods.

[Stolin]

yes, as she so gracefully said those are pretty fucking hard to kill. Monk and other melees are underrated for HNM fights. How could u get 74 mnk and not know how powerful u are?? Besides from natural strengths of hitting veryhard very fast you get great job abilities and armor to wear. The monk AF is fantastic which can't be said for all job's af which are most ofthe time rather worthless.

Getting back on topic i've seen one purson with the cursed togi. I think its called Kirin's Osede or something. Its sweet. One monk on my server has the hat piece aned the leg piece. I dont know if he got anymore pieces. The only reason people don't wear this trash is cus u have to be the best of the best to get it. You have to know all the right people and have dedicated friends that will help you with this. And another big problem is that everyone has their own agenda and wants a lot of hte stuff for theirself or to do other things that don't involve those cursed pieces at all. Which is sad , because i like to help people out even if idont get anything in return. No one wants to help other people if its going to be long,hard and not gett anything in return.

[Dano]

ok dont get me wrong that was my experience on my server, i did ask to join for some Hunts but they all said i'm not needed. Besides if you can have a blm nuking instead of a mnk boosting like hell and chi blasting for a mere 300 dmg? which one would you choose ?

yes i know monks are great at meleeing, but do you realize how tough HNMs like fafnir, the 4 beasts gods are ? you can barely hit em, and if you do you'll be doing crap dmg + you'll be giving them tp so they can frail spike (fafnir) you in the ass for 1k dmg? Not to mention you'll also be a burden, if you are hurt, people had to waste mp healing you. It's reality, i was disappointed when i finally realize this and that changed my mind of lvling to 75.

now i dont wanna turn this thread into a monk vs HNM so i'll just stop here.

[2.0]

What the hell crappy server are you on? And if you chi blast for 300 dmg you're doing it wrong. With +mind gear,goblin mushpot,boost,and defender on(to keep boosting) you should be getting at least 700 points of damage.

now i dont wanna turn this thread into a monk vs HNM so i'll just stop here

Yes I think you should.

[Thark601]

Originally posted by 2.0




Yes I think you should.

so he can prove you wrong? lol i don't expect to be invited to any serious HNM battles, due to the fact that i'm unimportant, just the way it goes for mnk

[2.0]

If you don't expect to be invited to any serious HNM battles because you feel unimportant that's fine. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is misinformation being spread. As was stated this topic isn't about that. I've said my piece about "Cursed Armor for Monks". I'll post no more in this topic.

[Redlimit]

There usually isn't a lot of competition for Dryadic Abjurations, so MNK does end up with most of them in an HNM battle.

The real problem is you need to find people who have extremely high Woodworking and Cloth/Leathercraft (I forget which of the two). This is not a popular combination.

On Ragnarok, only one of the cursed Shura/Bamboo pieces have gone up at the AH, while lots of every other cursed piece has made an appearance and sold several times. On our server you would have to manually track down someone with crafts that high, and thats not an easy task.

Because of this, I don't even see members of one of our oldest HNM LS's wearing any Shura. The one MNK has everything else imaginable (full AF2, full Celestial God gear, Harness, Optical Hat).....but not a single piece of Shura gear. People just aren't making the cursed parts to be used for this set.

[specialk]

2.0 is correct. mnks on my server are regularly taken to HNM fights. very often they will also sub whm or smn for the extra mnd boost.

i have seen mnks of this job config chi blast for 12xx. and they don't take 1 mnk, they take several.