Question about Kote and Boost

[FinalPhantasy13]

Ochiodu's Kote is 450k on Caitsith and I hear many of you say it is essential to a mnk's life. It raises attack by 20 which is quite a hefty #. While I was thinking about whether or not to buy it I decided to see how much boost enhances your attack. 1 boost at level 40=+20 attack. With this in mind, how can people say that the ochiodu's kote is essential, but boosting in battle isnt? It does the same thing, except boost is much cheaper.

[DrSerpico]

Boost and Kote

Well, the ouchidou's kote adds those 20atk even without boost, and you're not supposed to boost in fight except for ws.

Reason for this is twofold: For one, you loose half a cycle to boost, so you're wasting hits.

Second is boost is one thirds of provoke in hate generating (approx~), so you might get unwanted aggro.

And 3rd, you can only boost every 15 sec, I'm guessing you hit a bit more often then that.

By boosting in battle you loose at least 25% of your punches only to up atack 20% on ONE attack cycle.

Look at it this way: Ouchidous Kote is like having constant boost effect without wasting time. And then boost on top of this gives even more.

[Ungerpurr]

Boost (and all job abilities, spells, etc.) delay your next attack by the duration of the animation / casting time. You can see this easily by going into attack mode directly behind a monster, and then mashing your job abilities one after another (boost, dodge, focus, chakra, chi blast, counterstance, provoke, berserk, and defender) for me.

Now...about 15-20 seconds have passed...but if you mashed the JAs quickly enough, your first attack still hasn't happened...

That's the main reason why boost is bad. If it didn't delay your attacks, it's be godly. As you find out at level 41, however, the primary purpose of boost isn't to raise the damage on your regular melee attacks; it's to charge up for a 200+ (heading up to more like 300-400 at higher levels with AF gloves, and higher innate atk) damage chi blast at the beginning of a fight.

[Redlimit]

Ouchido's Kote are only "essential to a MNK's life" from 34-54. After that you will be using your AF gloves quite a bit as well. When you first get them, +20 Attack is a LOT to add (espcially in the 30's / 40's level range), but as you get higher, the +4 STR and added Boost affect from AF Gloves become more important.

So, if you are still in the 34-54 level range, by all means pick up the Kote. It is one of the best pieces of equipment you can get your hands on. I had mine from 42-54 and loved every minute of it.

[Mizu]

Originally posted by Redlimit
Ouchido's Kote are only "essential to a MNK's life" from 34-54. After that you will be using your AF gloves quite a bit as well. When you first get them, +20 Attack is a LOT to add (espcially in the 30's / 40's level range), but as you get higher, the +4 STR and added Boost affect from AF Gloves become more important.

So, if you are still in the 34-54 level range, by all means pick up the Kote. It is one of the best pieces of equipment you can get your hands on. I had mine from 42-54 and loved every minute of it.

At lv 49 i asked about 5 highlvl mnks if its needed to get the Ochi Kote ... every one told me the same that it isnt bad to gain them but in the time you are farming for them you can become lv 54 and finish the af quest.
So i saved the Money and bought the atk+5 gloves instead.

[Ungerpurr]

I personally don't feel you can write off the kote as early as 54. At 52, they still increase my ATK value by nearly 10%. I actually went without kote for a couple of nights. I sold kote to be able to afford cross-counters while there were some on sale, then bought them back when some things of mine in the AH had sold. I used Enkelados' bracelets in the interim...I had my first group after re-purchasing kote last night.

MAN, what a difference. Maybe the level 60 gigas bracelets are better (mainly because kote aren't as high a % of ATK at that level...currently my atk w/ kote is 225, at level 60 it'll be around 267-268 with them), but my damage was severely lowered vs. the kuftal crabs. Granted, this may be atypical of most xp mobs, simply because they're not crabs, but still. Also, enkelados' is +7 str vs. AF gloves +4.

With a bard thrown into the mix, that +20 atk actually becomes MORE valuable than it would otherwise, as ATK, inverse of defense, has increasingly large returns the more you get, until you reach the vertical (which you never will, against IT monsters).

In short, I'll probably re-evaluate my gloves of choice at level 60, but, for the time being, nothing beats kote.

[FinalPhantasy13]

Ok, I understand, I'm still not gonna go for the kote though, as an elvaan I see acc as more of an issue then attack. One more question about boost. I didn't really keep track of how much it increased attack until recently, does the amount it boost increas as you level? If so, how often does it get better?

[Fourinkmaaya]

boost increases attack by 12.5% per use.
boost with artifact gloves increases attack by 25% per use.

[Sharma]

Originally posted by FinalPhantasy13
Ok, I understand, I'm still not gonna go for the kote though, as an elvaan I see acc as more of an issue then attack. One more question about boost. I didn't really keep track of how much it increased attack until recently, does the amount it boost increas as you level? If so, how often does it get better?

Well Im guessing from the fact that youre elvaan and accuracy is an issue, You can always get Ochi Kote and still get life belt + jujitsu Gi/Masters Gi.

I must say the extra attack provided by Ochi Kote (I just got it the other day) Well, level 45ish or so and I must say, it has given me quite an edge on elvaan mnks due to the fact that they need more +acc and dex gear.

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[Jifan]

Elvaan and I dont have an acc issue. I use 2 Pussiance rings, the Kote's. Damage with the Kote's is insanely better.

[Halato]

Ochiodu's Kote is 450k on Caitsith and I hear many of you say it is essential to a mnk's life. It raises attack by 20 which is quite a hefty #. While I was thinking about whether or not to buy it I decided to see how much boost enhances your attack. 1 boost at level 40=+20 attack. With this in mind, how can people say that the ochiodu's kote is essential, but boosting in battle isnt? It does the same thing, except boost is much cheaper.

I know it was addressed above... but just to stress this: Spamming boost will get your hate. If you are dealing decent damage at all, spamming boost will make life hard on your tank, healer, and slower exp all the way around.