Meleeing, grouping monk?

[Dreakon]

I am considering being a monk with a few questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me.

Whats a good grouping adv/sub job I can get as a monk that will make it relatively easy for me to solo and find groups and whats a good adv/sub job I can get as a monk that will allow me to use my fists (or hand to hand equipment) from beginning to the highest level.

[Thark601]

the only job that exceels in h2h is mnk

mnk is a 2nd hand sub for any job compared to warrior...

and if your asking what you should use as a sub i'd say thf or war and not adv jobs...

the only job that makes sence is sam and that's not untill mnks over lvl 60

[Dreakon]

So there is no real hope to using h2h the entire game?

Monks sound like they suck and depend too much on other jobs. Someone please make me change my mind...

[dragoon]

I was hoping for monk/dark knight because it give you skill for strength

[Lone Dragon]

All jobs require you to lvl up one or two other jobs as a sub.
Saying Monk sucks because you can't use one weapon throughout your play time is asinine.
Most Melee jobs require a War sub,
so you'll have to buy multiple weapon types anyway.

[Rico]

Well DRG are good with spears only but many people love that job. I love using h2h Elvaans looks kick ass punching and kicking. Plus Taru Taru's have a cool emote drawing there h2h ^^d You can use 2h clubs for monks also for fun.

[Dreakon]

Well, what I really want is to be a strong, damage dealing, possibly tanking monk with mainly h2h skills and equipment. Maybe use h2h with warrior subbed? Would that work? Then I would have the skills and speed of a monk with a little strength and vitality of a warrior.

Does any of this sound good? I don't want to do all this then find out my character was doomed to fail from the start...

[dragoon]

Originally posted by Dreakon
So there is no real hope to using h2h the entire game?

Monks sound like they suck and depend too much on other jobs. Someone please make me change my mind...

You could just as well say white mage suck because they depnd on other jobs what about pally they depend on warrior to be good so pally must suck

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[Lone Dragon]

Never get into a PT expecting to tank.
Monks are never meant to tank.
We have a lot of HP, but we don't have the def to back it up.

However you HAVE to use warrior as a sub,
it's basically the only one that's useful until you're lv60+.

[Dreakon]

Well, white mages can heal. No other jobs really enhance upon that so no, WHM's could probably act alone. The thing about monks is they arent powerful enough to really do anything without the help of a subjob or advanced job. If they were capable of something my above idea about MNK/WAR would work.

[Lone Dragon]

Everything uses a sub, you stupid ponce.
You think Monk is the only job that's made more powerful with a sub?

[Chanchai]

umm.. what are you asking for? a subjob for monk that will use H2H to LV75? there is none.. thf might use H2H to LV33 and at the lower levels warriors might use H2H for skillchain purpose but other then that monk is the only one using H2H with effiency..

Well, white mages can heal. No other jobs really enhance upon that so no, WHM's could probably act alone. The thing about monks is they arent powerful enough to really do anything without the help of a subjob or advanced job. If they were capable of something my above idea about MNK/WAR would work.

umm.. i am, yet again, confused.. what the hell are you saying? :confused: :sweat:

[dragoon]

We can hit 4 more than anyother class
we can use Chakara to heal other(not sure about this)
we are balance in the str and vit
we got the power to shorten our grapple
what more do you want?

[TMPikachu]

Originally posted by Dreakon
So there is no real hope to using h2h the entire game?

Monks sound like they suck and depend too much on other jobs. Someone please make me change my mind...

who doesn't depend on other jobs anyways?
a warrior needs to be healed
a whitemage needs a meatshield
a monk needs a tank to hold aggro
it's a team game.


and solo whm's? You ever see them? They get the crap beaten out of them by anything not easy prey, and even when they do pull off a victory, they've drained alot of MP.

monks are actually one of the stronger jobs for solo, alongside redmages.

and don't worry about needing to buy axes and whatnot for a subjob

if you are say, a lvl 18 mnk (getting subjob) you can easily afford a lvl1-10 sword to level warrior.

and when you're done, sell it back in the AH for the same price, or possibly more.

[Atis]

Originally posted by dragoon
We can hit 4 more than anyother class
we can use Chakara to heal other(not sure about this)
we are balance in the str and vit
we got the power to shorten our grapple
what more do you want?

1. False. You won't get the high numbers that a drk or Drg etc.. will. Monks get their dmg from dps. DPS wise they are the strongest class, second only to ranger. However hit for hit they are not the highest.

2. Chakra is self only, 2xvit normally and 3xvit with AF. It also cures some status ailments.

3. Actually Monks get more dex than they do Str =)

4. Martial arts is what gives monks their dps. Without it they would be severly hindered.

480 base delay for h2h

Martial arts 1 *obtained at level 1*

Delay 400

Monks then gain martial arts every 15 levels, getting -20 delay each upgrade. so at say

level 15, Delay = 380
level 30, Delay = 360
level 45, Delay = 340
level 60, Delay = 320

I don't know if monks get another martial arts at 75...

However you take those delays then add the delay from your h2h weapon.