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**Spinnthrift** · 02-06-2008, 05:23 AM

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I realise I'm going to sound thoroughly elitest with my next comment... but:

I present to you all the above - a classic case of why people have been saying lolDrg for years.

Level your SJ's if you want to be taken seriously. Showing us pics of you without having made the effort to get a basic SJ sorted - shows us that your guide would have the same care taken. I realise this is blunt and not nice, but - you sound utterly proud of your acheivements which appear to be a consistent case of laziness... and we want you advising genuine newbies why?

**Sevv** · 02-06-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

I realise I'm going to sound thoroughly elitest with my next comment... but:

I present to you all the above - a classic case of why people have been saying lolDrg for years.

Level your SJ's if you want to be taken seriously. Showing us pics of you without having made the effort to get a basic SJ sorted - shows us that your guide would have the same care taken. I realise this is blunt and not nice, but - you sound utterly proud of your acheivements which appear to be a consistent case of laziness... and we want you advising genuine newbies why?

You are well aware that she subbed blm to warp back after 75 right?

**Skoal** · 02-06-2008, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

I realize I'm going to sound thoroughly elitist with my next comment... but:

I present to you all the above - a classic case of why people have been saying lolDrg for years.

Level your SJ's if you want to be taken seriously. Showing us pics of you without having made the effort to get a basic SJ sorted - shows us that your guide would have the same care taken. I realize this is blunt and not nice, but - you sound utterly proud of your achievements which appear to be a consistent case of laziness... and we want you advising genuine newbies why?

Wow you are an idiot. Why not lolpld since his/her pld is 75 and war is 29 and thats how he/she tanks? You do realize that if this person were to take their rdm and get it to 75 (or already have it at 75), that the blm sub would still be less than 37? Would that be lolrdm then?

**Spinnthrift** · 02-06-2008, 05:57 AM

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If that's the case - then she's too cheap to buy warp items and should be disregarded also as such. If that was not only the case Sevv, then why is it such a boon that she tanks Pld 75/War 29...

Oh wait.. no.. that's because.. she needs Warp with that too right? Or was too lazy to walk the 30s to get out of Oubliette without being gimp as anything?Did you fail to read her espousing how shite her gear is on Rdm, or how she couldn't play correctly in a party or... AND SO ON.

Is that really the kind of person you want giving advice to those who don't know well enough to say "I don't think that advice is sound."? Please tell me it's so Sevv.

Skoal - I meant it as a subtle GTFO. If you guys really want that educating newbies about Drg, by all means. Call me an idiot. You know far better than though, I'm not, just obnoxious. They're a great example of what not to do on a job, and I would say the same on any job they butchered this way that I played.

**Sevv** · 02-06-2008, 06:31 AM

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Do you even have a clue who ladykiki is? I am about as old school dragoon as you can get period. Incase you didn't have a clue LK soloed from 1-75 on drg so there is NO ONE BETTER to give how to solo to 75 advice on drg. Underleveled subs or not, until you make an achievement like that you have no right to speak.

She has solod everyone of her jobs to 75 minus a few parties on red mage, Were you amazing when you first started parting? I think not. Gear doesn't have to be amazing when you solo it just needs to get by. Ladykiki has proven that with the right mind set and determination anyone can achieve a goal.

Don't try to preach about gear or anything because thats one fight very few can win against me =P

**ItazuraNhomango** · 02-06-2008, 06:33 AM

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Hmm.

Ladykiki' [DRG75 | BST75 | PLD75 | RDM75]

DRG 1-75 - Soloed (RDM Sub)
BST 1-75 - Soloed (RDM&NIN Sub)
PLD 1-75 - Soloed (BST Sub)
RDM 1-75 - Soloed (BST Sub)

Xtreme Precision Soloing

If s/he was just soloing, it affected no one else which support jobs she used, much less if those support jobs were fully leveled or otherwise.

Now, if s/he is to use any of those jobs on a recurring basis in group activities, that's another matter. Otherwise, it'd be perfectly fine to hear "Nah, not brining PLD; I soloed that to 75, and don't have /WAR for it."

**Spinnthrift** · 02-06-2008, 06:54 AM

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If chain killing EP's is something to boast about - fine. You can support her all you want. When I found out about Drg's soloing skills back in 2004 when I was playing Drg for the first time, I was all like - "holy shit, I can chain T/VT on Drg for exp" and that didn't stop at 60... (back when I used to post on Allah, someone said it was impossible to get the chains I used to regularly - so I posted to show)... alas, long since gone now.. ; ;

She may have been the first to get to 75 be killing EP's. Congrats for her. It's not really an acheivement of note though, as I did a bunch of that farming on Thf. But I didn't boast about that, it was just trying to make money in game and something fun at the time. Well - actually, had I tried to do that for levels, I'd have gone out of my mind with utter boredom of it all.

And when I did solo jobs, I stopped killing EP's at around 10-12, as I wasn't happy with not pushing myself.

Was I perfect when I started? No. Can I hold up my end of a party at level 75 for missions etc now... Well, least my mp users don't ask me for refresh and my Rdm isn't even 75 yet... dun duh dah!

So Sevv, she was the first to do something that, well - isn't that impressive now. At least not for someone who's gone out and done similar, as well as taking out Alky and Pallas solo on Thf at 73 (pre Ni levels). So, when I see a lolpldgimpsub, and lolDrggimpsub and a perported guide on how to, I'll stand up and say no. Especially when they've admitted they've not learned the skills to play their role in doing so. Need I say more?

**Skoal** · 02-06-2008, 07:10 AM

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Mass murdering EP's is a great way to level. You get more drops, more seals, less danger etc. Once you level, you fight T/Vt's to get your skill up to par then go back to killing Eps.

In 2004 we didn't have sanction or sigil refresh like we do now. Sure you could chain a couple of VTs then you were out of mp. There were three way to get refresh before sanction: Brd, Rdm or juices. I tried juices and was spending money left and right just killing dc's.

Any job can kill Ep's. I do know that most of the time the only reason I have to stop is that I have ran out of mobs to kill. Not every job can go as long as drg can on so little mp.

**Sevv** · 02-06-2008, 07:29 AM

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Ok you may have not understood this but I am the last person you want to drag into a fight.

Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

If chain killing EP's is something to boast about - fine. You can support her all you want. When I found out about Drg's soloing skills back in 2004 when I was playing Drg for the first time, I was all like - "holy shit, I can chain T/VT on Drg for exp" and that didn't stop at 60... (back when I used to post on Allah, someone said it was impossible to get the chains I used to regularly - so I posted to show)... alas, long since gone now.. ; ;

You say you have played Dragoon, but did you actually try the job? Because there is no way in hell someone would solo off eps to 75. "Oh well look at her ss" hi2u realism, it was one screen shot and if I knew I was @ 21 to 75 I would go kill and ep for the epic @1 screenshot.

Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

She may have been the first to get to 75 be killing EP's. Congrats for her. It's not really an acheivement of note though,

She soloed to 75 just to prove it could be done and give the guide to the players. And it is an achievement you go solo from 1-75 on a job and tell me it isn't an achievement. I mean seriously get over yourself.

Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

as I did a bunch of that farming on Thf. But I didn't boast about that, it was just trying to make money in game and something fun at the time. Well - actually, had I tried to do that for levels, I'd have gone out of my mind with utter boredom of it all.

Are you kidding me? That may have been the most idiotic comment ever used in a fight on this board. So you also admit that she is better then you at something hmmm?

Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

And when I did solo jobs, I stopped killing EP's at around 10-12, as I wasn't happy with not pushing myself.

Was I perfect when I started? No. Can I hold up my end of a party at level 75 for missions etc now... Well, least my mp users don't ask me for refresh and my Rdm isn't even 75 yet... dun duh dah!

Again get over your ep to 75 theory its tired worn out and makes you look like an idiot.

Can I solo Nms? Oh ya
Can I out dd any job you have? Oh hell ya
Do we wanna swing our epeens about? Damn right
Do I use my 65 brd in endgame? Ya

She admitted she wasn't the best party red mage, mainly because she wasn't use to partying that is why I related it to the newb in their first parties. She realized this and solo'd and enjoyed her self so gtfo thinking you are god's gift to refresh whoring. Cuz at 45 rdm I can refresh and heal in a blu burn.

Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

So Sevv, she was the first to do something that, well - isn't that impressive now. At least not for someone who's gone out and done similar, as well as taking out Alky and Pallas solo on Thf at 73 (pre Ni levels). So, when I see a lolpldgimpsub, and lolDrggimpsub and a perported guide on how to, I'll stand up and say no. Especially when they've admitted they've not learned the skills to play their role in doing so. Need I say more?

Being the first person to solo drg 1-75 overall and making a guide of camps for the community is impressive, and a huge help to the community.

Farming gil and soloing 1-75 do not equal the same thing or even close. Sorry that you think your ability to solo a few mobs here and there are on the same level.

Congrats I soloed Avatars on drg/rdm, as well as Alyk and pallas on drg. There is alot of things that I have soloed on drg, that can out impress your accomplishments if you want to throw epeens all day.

Try talking about guides when you have a clue about the subject matter and the person behind it, the black mage sub thing has nothing to do with the guide. It was used for warp pleas kindly gtfo yourself.

Take yourself out of this convo or leave it be kk back to seeking drg75/pup20

**Spinnthrift** · 02-06-2008, 07:36 AM

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Skoal - I was chain x4 on VT... the screenies are probably on Alla still if you can be arsed to look, I can't as I deleted my account there when I moved here, so I can't check my old posts/PM's. Perhaps it was because I was a Taru and had the mp to go a little further. Who knows. Maybe it was that I always had levelled SJ's and the correct gearings for the mob I was fighting.. who knows indeed, but - I know I was making almost as much as a mediocre party would easy 4k an hour solo, if not more. I never really worried too much as it was decent enough for me not to worry.

My next point is, I knew a guy who was very much like the above Lady, apart from the total antithesis. He'd deliberately do as many missions and things as he could so he'd know entirely how to function in a party. But I'd never see him in an exp party, ever. And when we did get him partied with us... damn it, if he didn't do his jobs well. His name was Loncar, of the Phoenix server. Back when I played there. Strange that... The guy never exp'd with anyone, yet - he knew how to play in party/mission scenario's and was really good at it. And I'm supposed to hold the OP in high esteem? No. If Loncar had posted here, I'd be fully supporting him, as a: he'd have levelled SJ's, b: be able to function at party level in any of his jobs, c: Didn't need Sevv's praise, as he was genuinely skilled, not just immune to carpal tunnel.

**Sevv** · 02-06-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by Spinnthrift View Post

Skoal - I was chain x4 on VT... the screenies are probably on Alla still if you can be arsed to look, I can't as I deleted my account there when I moved here, so I can't check my old posts/PM's. Perhaps it was because I was a Taru and had the mp to go a little further. Who knows. Maybe it was that I always had levelled SJ's and the correct gearings for the mob I was fighting.. who knows indeed, but - I know I was making almost as much as a mediocre party would easy 4k an hour solo, if not more. I never really worried too much as it was decent enough for me not to worry.

My next point is, I knew a guy who was very much like the above Lady, apart from the total antithesis. He'd deliberately do as many missions and things as he could so he'd know entirely how to function in a party. But I'd never see him in an exp party, ever. And when we did get him partied with us... damn it, if he didn't do his jobs well. His name was Loncar, of the Phoenix server. Back when I played there. Strange that... The guy never exp'd with anyone, yet - he knew how to play in party/mission scenario's and was really good at it. And I'm supposed to hold the OP in high esteem? No. If Loncar had posted here, I'd be fully supporting him, as a: he'd have levelled SJ's, b: be able to function at party level in any of his jobs, c: Didn't need Sevv's praise, as he was genuinely skilled, not just immune to carpal tunnel.

You sir are an idiot. Plain and simple with no need to continue on farther unless you provoke.

**Kafeen** · 02-06-2008, 07:53 AM

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I doubt she went 1-75 killing EP's She subbed BST for the ability to charm for a reason, its not something you usually need to do to fight EP's.

The only job she didn't sub /BST (expect BST obviously) on was DRG. I know when I've soloed DRG EP's weren't my main target. Fighting the right mobs you can quite easily take down EM-T mobs.

**Spinnthrift** · 02-06-2008, 07:56 AM

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Sevv: Guess what? I didn't solo every job to 75, and guess what? Any job I have at more than 10 I can play well in a party. I'll quote for you:

Granted, my partying ability is complete shite. I totally did not refresh the SMN during a mission run last night for ToAU42. I forgot he ... was there. We won anyway. And I lack a lot of de-facto RDM gear. (Cape, belt, earrings, rings, neck)

You want to praise that as a role model? Be my guest. I'm not so stuck in 2004 that I don't know when it's time to adapt.

For what my situation was at the time, I took those little 2 hours a day in between work/university to solo it to 75, which included the spam of the ENM60 down in Mine Shaft #xxxx and the Escort Quest. I must say that the method I did was basically: 60-62 (about) was done in Crawler's Nest, then I moved to Labyrinth of Onzozo at 63~66 then from 66-75 I did it in Bostaunieux Oubliette fighting ... bats and dogs. It was ... really safe, and I had no trouble at all. There was no EXP chains involved.

I highlighted the key part. Sevv, you're wrong. Stop stealing my oxygen please. Highest level hound would be 66, so EM at best was the maximum for one level. Why do I need to fight against you when the person you're sticking up for so blindly validates what I say?

Originally posted by Sevv

Being the first person to solo drg 1-75 overall and making a guide of camps for the community is impressive, and a huge help to the community.

Try talking about guides when you have a clue about the subject matter and the person behind it, the black mage sub thing has nothing to do with the guide. It was used for warp pleas kindly gtfo yourself.

I wrote guides on how to, back in 2004/2005 - and bless... really... your defending is so sweet but you're still stealing oxygen. And wrong. They've said themselves was no exp chains. So you're whole tirade of abuse makes me giggle knowing how angry you've got, while still being.. guess... WRONG!

Have a great day sunshine, I hope it leaves you as smiley as your posts have left me... laughing at you and thanking you for brightening my day. ^^

**Vyuru** · 02-06-2008, 08:32 AM

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First off:

LadyKiki, glad to see you back. I would be very interested in seeing your soloing guide for drg. I've done alot of soloing as well, although more in the EM-T+ area, and I may have a few suggestions to give you on soloing spots.

Now, for the rest:

Skoal - I was chain x4 on VT...

Chain #s mean little, it's all on what you are fighting.

Incase you didn't have a clue LK soloed from 1-75 on drg so there is NO ONE BETTER to give how to solo to 75 advice on drg.

Technically that might be me, but then I didn't solo 1-75, just a whole lot of soloing 50+.

Level your SJ's if you want to be taken seriously. Showing us pics of you without having made the effort to get a basic SJ sorted

SJ while soloing is rather subjective. If I can be fighting DC-EM mobs, and these are the quadav/yagudo/orcs in the past, with a lvl 16 blue mage subjob, and chaining the EMs I might add, although granted not very high chains due to lack of mp, I hardly think a lvl 33 blm sub that may or may not have been used for soloing is something to get worked up over.

Could I do better with my rdm sub? Easily, but I wanted to have fun and see what I could do with my blu sub.

Is that really the kind of person you want giving advice to those who don't know well enough to say "I don't think that advice is sound."? Please tell me it's so Sevv.

Perhaps you should go and read LadyKiki's previous contributions to this forum, so that an inkling of how helpful and decent her advice is.

Skoal - I meant it as a subtle GTFO

It's getting pretty damn clear that you know very little about this job from what you say on this forum. Kindly stop your trolling or at the very least adopt a more civil tone.

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