DRG Elitist BS

[DakAttack]

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BRP, did you even read the post? He didn't mention what rings he was wearing.

People don't shut down their accounts over what you described. If they did there would be a lot less players in the game.

[Greylynx]

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I did mention the rings later on. Said I had a +3 STR ring and a +5 ATT ring. Someone said that those were gimp, I assume they mean the +5 ATT ring. Have to admit I am not really sure why..... + STR is better for WS I know, but wouldn't the +5 ATT be better the rest of the time. I am not exactly close to my ATT cap or anything.

Then again I guess its irrelevant now huh?

In response to your statement that people don't quit over what I described.... maybe I am in the minority of people who remember that this is just a game. A game that is meant to be fun not meant to be about getting insulted by other people so they can feel better about themselves. Thats what work is for.

[Celeal]

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I find forum rants like these rather funny. This level 70 DRG is painted as some villain, and that probably wasn't the case at all. I've seen situations like this a hundred times and I got a feeling you are bending the truth in order to get some forum sympathy. While I could be wrong, I have a strong sense the following really happened:

The level 70 DRG checks you and notices that your gear is below average(which it is, especially the rings, but not really gimp, yet worth a mention). He says this to you, telling you that you should work on replacing so-and-so with so-and-so. You reply saying either, 1) that you like your gear and it's stats are better anyway(which you've already shown here) or 2) the player is an elitist and that gear doesn't matter. All the while this guy is probably trying to explain the concept of Melee and WS macro sets or saying that it just doesn't work that way and you are gimping yourself. You are probably very aggressive, opposed to defensive, frustrating not only this high-level Dragoon, but now the entire LS. The DRG is has finally become as aggressive as you, saying that noobie dragoons are the problem, yatta yatta.

Replace Dragoon with any other job and you got half of these "OMG SO ELITIST" forum posts covered.

The Dragoon, may or may not have been "elitist", but more than likely he wasn't harassing you. If you told him you had the gear and switched to it(without mentioning your in-his-opinion uneducated opinion on the matter), probably wouldn't have been an issue to begin with. Like it or not, but he probably knows more about the job than you. This game is a learning experience, instead of becoming bitchy or aggressive when someone more experienced than you gives advice(no matter if the tone is a tad bit elitist), you just take it unless it goes against something you've proven yourself or been advised by someone who you hold in higher value. Get a grip.

PS. Word on the street, it's this whole "we are a brotherhood" thing that is giving DRGs a bad name. Anytime I've seen someone intelligently insult DRG, it's mentioned.

If the OP is asking for gear advice from that level 70 DRG, then it is a different story.

Examine a LS member gear, and make a negative comment explicitly on LS chat, is not a respectful action, regardless of the intention.

[Icemage]

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There's thousands of other people on your server. Find some better friends - ones that have something more in their heads than rocks. I don't see anything really wrong with your gear (though your choices for when to use some pieces of AF gear seem a bit unusual).


Icemage

[eticket109]

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Gloves: +10% ACC for Wyvern. Considering I have +40 ACC and I am eatting sushi its not like I need the ACC from the battle gloves, right? Maybe a good thing for this slot would be some of the NM gigas braclets though.

Legs: +10% HP for Wyvern = +10% Damage on his breath attack (or +10% healing on his Healthing breath). I don't think thats insignificant.

Feet: With AF Feet on, I find that High Jump is usually enough to turn hate back on tank (which happens alot, especially with Ninja tank, when Berserk is on, or fighting something weak to piercing,) so this means I can go all out without holding back as I can now shed hate twice in 3 minutes (w/ Super Jump too of course). This is also nice when a THF plants SATA on me, and I can jump it off without worrying about timers.
So if you think about it, its not really that bad huh?

Gloves: I think I wore them for the most part. The Spiked Finger Gauntlets are nice but a bit overpriced for that level.

Legs: 10% on breaths is nice, sure. With a breath of 100-200 that will give you another 10-20 hp. Personally, though I think the +5 to attack from Republic Sub. (or +7 from greaves, depending on Conquest) will lead to a larger DoT overall. I pretty much stuck with those two til Barone.

Feet: I used them for Jumps and High Jumps but I macro'ed them in. I think I stuck with Leaping/Bounding and Federation Gaiters (again, depending on Conquest).

AF has its uses, just because I didn't melee full time with it doesn't mean others can't. The guy comes off as an ass but people are like that sometimes.

Honestly, until the Feral set at 63, a lot of our gear is patchwork at best. They added a ton of awesome gear at endgame for Dragoons with Homam, Barone and the Assault sets... but up until then its a mixed bag.

[Lmnop]

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I Can't Believe People Still Wear Rupublic Subligar In The Sixties.

[Deeman]

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loldrg.


(I'm so sorry, I just had to!)

But seriously, dont go all emo just because some dude called you a gimp. Like Raydeus said, most high lvl drgs are bitter and emo and this thread doesnt help banish that stereotype. You pay to PLAY this GAME however you want (given the restrictions of ToS).

[eticket109]

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I Can't Believe People Still Wear Rupublic Subligar In The Sixties.

sadly, for an overall attack bonus there really isn't much else until Feral @63

[dirtyclown]

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The Dragoon, may or may not have been "elitist", but more than likely he wasn't harassing you. If you told him you had the gear and switched to it(without mentioning your in-his-opinion uneducated opinion on the matter), probably wouldn't have been an issue to begin with. Like it or not, but he probably knows more about the job than you. This game is a learning experience, instead of becoming bitchy or aggressive when someone more experienced than you gives advice(no matter if the tone is a tad bit elitist), you just take it unless it goes against something you've proven yourself or been advised by someone who you hold in higher value. Get a grip.

Good day fellow troll, I'd like you to take a look at the bolded section there. That bit of "wisdom" has set up countless players on the road to failure. I know you get massive lols out of steering people the wrong way intentionally, just as I do from time to time, but seriously. You're not helping the community by telling people to STFU and listen to whatever someone higher level than they are has to say. You're reinforcing the sheep mentality. Stop it.

OP, I'm sorry this happened. You can bet if I was there I'd tear him a new ass and probably get blacklisted by a few people, but sometimes it's worth it to tell someone to shut the hell up when they're out of line. Go play a better game, and be sure to have a wonderful time.

[Anaki]

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im at 75 and i still use my drachen greaves :x i really dont see much other things with a significant bonus to them D: and i didn't use drachen gloves much when i had them because i had some enkies i borrowed from my fried (dex-4 = acc-2) so not wearing battle gloves is not bad since thats a acc difference of 5 between battle gloves and enkies

[Legal Fish]

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Dirtyclown, you use the term sheep too loosely. More importantly, you also seem to ignore the fact that I didn't say to follow person who gave the advice blindly. It no longer matters, because has clarified what I suggested isn't what happened. If what I said was relevant depends entirely on whether the reader believes him or not. There is no reason to discuss this any further.

[dirtyclown]

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Do I? Are you sure? You of all people should know that misinformation runs rampant all over the place in this game, because people like you spread it and the sheep mentality. I fail to see the point in telling someone to shut up and listen to whoever it is giving advice just because they're high level, which is an issue that does need to be discussed, because it needs to end. Perhaps at another time, but it does need to be addressed.

[DakAttack]

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I did mention the rings later on. Said I had a +3 STR ring and a +5 ATT ring. Someone said that those were gimp, I assume they mean the +5 ATT ring. Have to admit I am not really sure why..... + STR is better for WS I know, but wouldn't the +5 ATT be better the rest of the time. I am not exactly close to my ATT cap or anything.

Then again I guess its irrelevant now huh?

I've reread it a few times. I still don't see it...

In response to your statement that people don't quit over what I described.... maybe I am in the minority of people who remember that this is just a game. A game that is meant to be fun not meant to be about getting insulted by other people so they can feel better about themselves. Thats what work is for.

I was referring to what BRP was describing. As far as I know people flame other people while handing out equipment advice all the time, but people rarely quit over it. If you're actually quitting over it, it must have been something much more appalling.

[Greylynx]

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Thanks for all the responses guys. I appreciate your feedback. I have learned two things:

1) The majority of people agree that the DRG was out of line. I am so happy to hear this as it restores my faith in the players.

2) I overreacted and took the situation WAY to seriously. Maybe canceling my account was alittle drastic. I keep saying its only a game so we should all play nice, but by the same token its only a game so who cares what others think.

I am going to take a few weeks off and touch base with reality again. I think I will come back to FF in a month or so with a fresh perspective. I have been spending too much time on the game anyway. I think I was the guy who SE was talking about with the warning when you log in!

In the meantime, good luck with your adventures everyone!

[Icemage]

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In the meantime, good luck with your adventures everyone!

Now that's something I think everyone can appreciate. Good luck, and hope to see you back when you've had a chance to cool off.


Icemage