Accuracy Build

[eticket109]

Re: Accuracy Build

I can't really add much beyond what has been posted. Rather I'll backup a few things. Pre-75, with the tendency for parties to want to fight IT++ mobs all the time, you can never have too much accuracy. With the cookie cutter nature of xp parties, meat won't become viable til around 75. Just stick with Sole Sushi.

You're getting to the stage where you'll want to keep str+ gear on hand for Wheeling Thrust, but you'll want an accuracy build for most of your meleeing.

One piece of gear you may want to start farming for is the Tiphia Sting. Its a great piece, especially for a Galka DRG as we don't get much in the melee spot and your RSE sachet won't help with accuracy. You may also want to save up for a Chivalrous Chain as well, though there is no accuracy difference at this stage.

You're on the right track overall. Just keep tweaking it til you get a setup that works.

edit: the Jaeger ring is a great pickup if you can get it. I still wear mine on occasion at 75.

[Greylynx]

Re: Accuracy Build

I want to thank everyone for all their input. Seems like a /WAR accuracy build for the purpose of eating meat is pretty difficult (read: expensive) if not impossible until 75. I will go back to optimizing ATT vs. ACC and eating sushi until I start meriting.

Seems like DRG/SAM would be able to pull it off, but unfortunately my SAM is only level 7 right now and I want to level BLU and THF for use as subjobs too so I am not sure when I will have the opportunity to use it.

[Lmnop]

Re: Accuracy Build

I'm late to the party, but I want to toss out some random figures.

I have a feeling I posted this somewhere else. If so, excuse the broken record:

I was checking Imps @68 (they checked IT, but nothing else) and found that with +50 acc in gear, they still wouldn't check low evasion. But if I put on 3 more acc, they went to low evasion. So, I need over 50 acc to get them low eva. Then I ate Sole Sushi, I needed +15-17 (not sure which, just that another +3 acc pushed them over) to make them check low evasion on Sole. 17 acc is not hard to obtain at all. So yeah, if you're fighting mobs that are not high evasion naturally, you shouldn't need more than 20 acc on top of sushi. 35+sushi is far overboard.

So yeah, I think you're 10 acc away from decent meat build.

I carry gear around for both set-ups on my WAR, along with a full stack of sis kebabi and a full stack of sole everywhere I go. In general, I eat Sushi, but I use meat in parties with lower level mobs. If you somehow find yourself in a party fighting VT mobs, Sushi just takes the fun out of it. Meat dishes are insane on VT.

I used +37 acc for VT crawlers with kebabi (was very fun with Minuet).

Only reason I don't use meat on IT mobs is because I hate taking off my well-rounded DD pieces for pieces with small amounts of acc on them (I'm looking at you, Ryl.Kgt. Mufflers).

[Malevolent]

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i dunno about Tiphia's Sting...-25 HP and -4 Evasion just for +4Acc and +4attack....but than again for Drg there really isn't anything else to put in your ammo slot...

[tdh]

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I've had this debate quite often with a few DRGs in my LS. One of them seems to have an exaggerated idea of what the DRG Acc Bonus is, and the other one seems to listen to reason.

I've debated for sometime that if you can build Acc+45~50 and then Acc traits you could pop the Meat Dishes, but may not want to for the sake of hate gained. I've actually partied with one of the DRGs, and he's not bad. Acc is pretty good, and hits pretty hard. Vs. Colibri he was landing about 150~175 a hit and I was landing about 150~200 a hit. (I was DRK/WAR - both at Lv.60) These were lower end VT Colibri and he and I would bounce hate back and forth at the start of the fight.

At that point I hit him with a /tell. I told him how I wanted to be the DRK with so much Acc that I could eat Meat Dishes and one shot everything that moved, and then I started to see as my Atk scaled upwards and so did the hate I pulled. If we pull hate with Sushi, then an Acc build good enough to use Atk foods means we'll be main tanking too often. I don't know what rating DRGs have in Evasion, but DRK has C rating and then I'm currently wearing Eva-40. I can't take too many hits especially since I can't avoid any of them. haha After that conversation he brings Sushi and some Atk food, but generally just sticks with Sushi.

As WAR I've been able to eat Atk foods, but only as WAR52/NIN swinging Axes. I have Acc+40, Aggressor, an awesome Taru PLD, and Crabs as EXP mobs. I'm not so worried about pulling hate and felt the need to up my DoT. Once I'm Lv.55 it's back to Sushi for max Acc for Rampage though. If I go WAR/THF and Great Axe (Which I'd rather do, just not so great Skillchain options force me to go Axes) I always use Sushi.

[eticket109]

Re: Accuracy Build

i dunno about Tiphia's Sting...-25 HP and -4 Evasion just for +4Acc and +4attack....but than again for Drg there really isn't anything else to put in your ammo slot...

the HP and evasion effects don't have much bearing in an exp situation anyway.

I wouldn't solo with it though

[nanatsu]

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i dunno about Tiphia's Sting...-25 HP and -4 Evasion just for +4Acc and +4attack....but than again for Drg there really isn't anything else to put in your ammo slot...

It's actually +2 acc and +2 atk. If it was +4 it might actually be worth it. I did have one for a while but I figured I could use the money for other things. Tiphia Sting is something I wouldn't get unless I have absolutely every single other important thing I need. And even then it's low on my list of optionals.

[tdh]

Re: Accuracy Build

i dunno about Tiphia's Sting...-25 HP and -4 Evasion just for +4Acc and +4attack....but than again for Drg there really isn't anything else to put in your ammo slot...

Tiphia Sting is actually only Acc+2 and Atk+2, so that's worse! Not worth the HP-25 or the Eva-4 if you ask me. Then again as Elvaan, my RSE Sachet has STR+2 on it. ^^ So I wouldn't go this route anyway.

[Celeal]

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I think DRG can go for ACC+ and Attack food and get away with hate issue. It is because:

1. Damage output is spread across the DRG and his pet. For example, compare to hard hitting WS like Sidewinder, DRG's WS usually is a lower damage combines with the pet's breath damage.

2. DRG itself has tool to migrate hate without using subjob or external means. For example, High Jump and Super Jump. Even a Trick Attack needs a partner.

3. DRG's JA can deal damage (or TP gain) without generate much hate, compare Jump/High Jump to Warcry/Soul Eater/Barrage.

4. For hate generated by DoT, look at DRG's and other jobs like MNK's, DRK's, WAR/NIN's, RNG's, etc, DRG should generates less: DRG does not have Martial Art or Dual Weird, does not spike like RNG's, and does not have the base STR/Attack of DRK. DRG's DoT is spread among DRG + his pet. (Note: I am not talking about TP gain and weapon delay here)

IMHO, end game DRG/SAM using ACC+ gear with attack food setup (with Hasso and Seigan + Third Eye) has a good balance of ACC~dmg~hate.

P.S. This is NOT about Job vs Job or Subjob vs Subjob. Just trying to discuss the potential of DRG acc. build.

[Mouser]

Re: Accuracy Build

Accuracy builds are hard at that level, partially, as people have mentioned, because you tend to fight relatively harder things. Also, you have to potentially sacrifice so much STR/ATK gear to wear ACC gear, that you're not necessarily even ending up much better with meat + ACC than sushi + ATK.

It was a while ago, but I think at that level my +ACC was +27 from gear (Lifebelt, Merman Gorget, Venerer Ring, Assault Earring, GK Lance) and had to use Sushi to hit at an acceptable rate. Of course at the time people XPed on Toramas which are pretty damn evasive, so that didn't help much either.

[Malevolent]

Re: Accuracy Build

The only time i could pull off using meat was when i'd duo with another drg/rdm is in sky against flamingoes at lvl 60+


optimal gear would be
drachen armet
mermans neck or Chiv chain
SH
GK lance or Schwarz Lance
Sun Ringx2 or sun& sniper
AF legs
AF feet
Ammet Mantle at 61
life belt
spike earringsx2

i used meatkabobs from 60-67 and didn't see any trouble. IF you can i'd suggest you get a Narval at 67

[eva00r]

Re: Accuracy Build

If you can push your acc bonus to +50, then you can try Hedgehog Pie.

hHP+2 hMP+2 HP+55 STR+6 VIT+2 INT-3 MND+3 Attack+18% (Cap90) Ranged Attack+18% (Cap90) Accuracy+5

This will surely outdamage any food. Well it's for /WAR *only*, just because you will never reach 500 base attack for +90 attack cap with other sub.

btw : the price is around 20-30k per 1 pie but it lasts 3 hours.

[LadyKiKi]

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Are we going budget or is there plenty of gil to throw around?

Grand Knight's Lance (+7)
Peacock Charm (+10)
Scorpion Harness (+10)
Woodsman Ring x2 (+10)
Lifebelt (+10)
{Accuracy Trait} (+10)
Battle Gloves (+3)/Macro X.Bracelet in (whichever Giga Version you have for WS)
Assault Earring (+2)
Accurate Earring (+2)/Optical Earring (+1) (-1 Attack)
Tiphia Sting (+2)

+66 Accuracy or +65 with Optical Earring.

Sub RNG for +86. Additionally, remove 2 pieces of +10 Acc equip for other equip.

I think I heard that there's a "cap" somewhere, no matter how much you put on after X amount it won't affect your hit rate anymore. That's the luxury option though, so it depends on the person.

[Celeal]

Re: Accuracy Build

The 1st ACC bonus from RNG does not stack with DRG's ACC bonus

IMHO, even for acc+ gear attack food setup, I would reserve a few gear slot for STR+ (even for DoT). I dunno, maybe 1 or 2 gear slots boosting the pet's performance too.

[LadyKiKi]

Re: Accuracy Build

The 1st ACC bonus from RNG does not stack with DRG's ACC bonus

IMHO, even for acc+ gear attack food setup, I would reserve a few gear slot for STR+ (even for DoT). I dunno, maybe 1 or 2 gear slots boosting the pet's performance too.

Oh. Oopps. I totally forgot. You'll just have to be satisfied with +76/+75 then.