New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

[aegina]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

yeah, it's a good change for drg's. maybe not good enough, but when we're talking about se here, take what we can get...

[Tipsy]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Ok, I logged in, all excited, got into a PT..popped the 2 hour...and noticed NOTHING. You get +14 Strength, which is laughable for a 2 hour.

It also eats your wyvern so what little extra damage you do get, is canceled out by the fact that your Wyvern isnt there to cast spells, or for his DoT.

The jumps did not make a difference at all. The "Defense" down has to be a joke.

What is wrong with SE, why do they insist that DRG isn't underpowered. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that DRG is the -ONLY- melee damage job without some sort of attack buff.

WAKE UP S-E!

Dragoon can do things that other jobs wish they can do, your lucky SE even changed the Call Wyvern timer and gave you a better 2-hour, what more do you want? For god's sake stop bitching already and learn how to use it.

[DakAttack]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Yep, this is the point in time where I wish I wasn't a Dragoon. First we're all on our knees and begging for an update, forming pity parties on forums across the internet, and now we're ungrateful snobs. We have a great two-hour ability now, what the hell else did we need? They weren't going to hand us some sort of "I Win" button. Spirit Surge is just as good as if not better than most other two-hour abilities.

We aren't broken anymore. Melee jobs in general are broken, but as individual jobs we're perfectly fine now.

[SelfdestButton]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Welcome to FFXI. Huge revelation: most drgs are morons.

[Sylviana]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Thanks you for that insightful response.

As for the changes to Dragoons,

Even if the new 2hr isnt all that we had hoped, the changes are still amazing.

Having CW at 20 minutes actually lessens the horrible blow to your self esteem when fighting AOE mobs.

I like the changes and will be dusting off my Purple panties soon.

[Kailea]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

No, it's a fixed 14 STR. I got 14, and my 73 friend got 14.

that cant be right, I think it is based off of something because an LS member (DRG lv1) used it and only got +1 STR

[DakAttack]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Welcome to FFXI. Huge revelation: most drgs are morons.

QFT

Now if only they'd stop ruining my reputation.

[Kailea]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

QFT

Now if only they'd stop ruining my reputation.

yeah dito -.-

[saige]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

didnt know if anyone wrote this but i got 100 tp also wich can be somewhat usfull i guess, i just save it then do a WS then use it use another WS then do my jumps and call drg again, not too helpfull but the best part of the update was the 20 min drg call ^_^

Double Post Edited:

Get TP, WS, Spirit Surge, Jump, WS, Icarus wing, WS, High Jump, Super Jump. Sounds pretty excelsior to me.

sorry just saw this should have read first ^^ just being lazy

[Balodoth]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

OK, before we judge. . . let's test this out. We'll need to know the sub, the level, bonus to STR, amount of TP gained, mob fought w/ rating.

Then we'll be able to make a more informed decision and theorize about anything S-E may not tell us. For instance, I'm guessing we get the wyvern's TP, so random TP gains are expected. I'm also expecting this affects our accuracy, maybe even our evasion. So, we'll need to test mobs with diff ACC equipment to see how the mob /checks with different equipment setting before and during 2-hour. Evasion will be more difficult.

We'll also want to check Jump to see if we can establish any basic rule of how much defense is lowered. For High Jump, let's see what we can do about learning to predict enemy TP. As for Super Jump, I'm a little disappointed we didn't get to do damage. . .

Overall, from what I'm reading, this really is a party based 2-hour. I mean, look at RNG, MNK, or WAR. They do more damage, that's it. THF and PLD just avoid damage. Granted these abilities can help the party, but they don't have as direct an effect on the party as ours does. Not only do we do more damage, but we can allow the entire party to do more damage with Jump. Then after a WS & MB bonanza, we can High Jump to deny the enemy their reprisal. THEN when hate goes awry and focuses on somebody that we can't allow to have it, we focus hate back where it belongs. I really like how it functions like Cover, but is immediate and involves me avoiding damage too.

Overall, I like this. I fully expect people to post parser results showing we do the same, maybe even a bit less damage than with our wyvern. But those same parsers will show the rest of the party doing more damage, and the rest of the party taking less damage. I don't care who you are, that's cool. If S-E would give us an ability to find out the enemy's TP (I remember a spy ability from FFIV), DRG could be invaluable in Promyvion.

[aegina]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

a lvl 60 drg in my ls tried his 2 hr out on xp mobs and he said it worked great.he said shj did 500 damage to an it xp mob.


maybe the power of the 2 hour is based on your level, or the mob's level?

[Draco Dagon]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Quite frankly, as a DRG I think most of us DRG could just live without a 2hr at all since Call Wyvern is so good as a 20m-ability. I could really care less what my 2hr is anymore now that Call Wyvern is 20m.

[Drogen_Shomuro]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Really fun: Drg/Drk + 2hr

Step 1: Get yourself and your wyvern to 300 TP
Step 3: Souleater + Last Resort
Step 4: Engage and Penta Thrust immediately so your wyvern still has 300 TP.
Step 5: Use 2hr, gain all your HP back and 300 TP from your wyvern.
Step 6: Use Jump
Step 7: Penta Thrust again

[MMan530]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Welcome to FFXI. Huge revelation: most drgs are morons.

Not to sound arrogant, but I've long since thought this was the main problem with DRG.

[SelfdestButton]

Re: New 2 hour ability- "Free Meat Chiefkabob"

Not arrogant.