Comments to Dragoons

[Sevv]

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On the 35 note, they can still be a newb but still should know or have atleast partied with most jobs in the game. 2 of the reasons being the shortness of most dunes parties should introduce most players to alot of the advanced jobs as people take them thru, and second atleast on ifrit from lvl 1-30 there are a couple dragoons seeking or parting.

And on the newbs, I personally dont mind most newbs... I mentor on a ls for newbs. Well there are two types of newbs 1- the ones who listen and want your advice and to learn the jobs so that the will no longer be newbs. I personally love these kinda of newbs, because the are out to better themselves. 2- there are the one who wont listen to anyone telling you they know better than you do. These are also the PL ME PL ME PL ME, the ones who ask me to sub my gimped whm with 81 mp to pl them in dunes I laugh and say get a whm.

And I have noticed a lot of 65+ newbs, but later to find out they had bought there accounts , I think account buying is helping to dumb the community

[Gilge]

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you are half right, if a BST is in a PT, only the BST gets the EXP cut not the PT.........if I remember right but yeah BST are the only one that get the EXP cut for haveing pets....also when someoen uses their NPC, only the person taht owns the NPC gets the exp cut (found out people thought the whole PT got the cut and they dont)

for the bst i thought exp loss in a pt worked like this:
if the mob the bst charms is even match or under, only the bst gets cut
if its higher than that the whole pt gets cut

read that somewhere, cant remember where...

[capitalistnihilist]

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for the bst i thought exp loss in a pt worked like this:
if the mob the bst charms is even match or under, only the bst gets cut
if its higher than that the whole pt gets cut

read that somewhere, cant remember where...

This is correct. Past lvl 35 you could always just have the beast release the pet before the mob dies and nobody gets an EXP cut ^^.

[Kailea]

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ooohhh ok that is how it works :p sorry I only have my BST to 7 lol so I was not sure

[Kafeen]

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This is correct. Past lvl 35 you could always just have the beast release the pet before the mob dies and nobody gets an EXP cut ^^.

Actually if the mob is T or higher everyone still takes a loss, just like you would if you had a member of your party higher. The exp for a mob is worked out according to the highest member of the party, including pets.

[Sevv]

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Lol yay for bst??? lmao gota love how every convo gets sidetracked

[Bahamut Kaiser]

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About the dumbest thing that was ever said to me about Drg is, you can't do any damage. I've been asked to pull a few times after lvl 45, not realy dumb, but not smart, expecially when you have anything else in the party. And I got droped from a mission 5 party that I scheduled for my LS because they said Drg couldn't do anything in a battle vs undead.

There are dozens of lvl 75 that are flat out stupid. Many of the players who get through to the end of the game are there because of advanced support from other players, and alot of players don't do anything but exp, and finish the quests required to reach higher lvls.

Aside from that Experience is rarely meaningful in the life of an idiot. I know alot of old ppl that are dumb as a bag of rocks too, and they act the same way, they think they are noteworthy because they have been around a long time. There's an old cliche that some ppl share, "you can't understand unless you experience it for yourself", what that translates into is, I'm to stupid to realize that the burner is hot unless I touch it.

Knowledge > Intelligence > Experience. Experience is the slowest way to learn anything, about the only significan't lesson that can't be learn from Study faster then Experience are emotions.

As for a lvl 30 not being a new player, imagine for a second how much a lvl 30 actually goes through, by lvl 30 a player only has a gerneral understanding of the areas in the game, is just learning how to play thier own job, and without any kind of studying, knows probably less then 10% of what the game consists of. That's assuming someone hasn't been leading them by the hand.

[Kafeen]

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About the dumbest thing that was ever said to me about Drg is, you can't do any damage. I've been asked to pull a few times after lvl 45, not realy dumb, but not smart, expecially when you have anything else in the party. And I got droped from a mission 5 party that I scheduled for my LS because they said Drg couldn't do anything in a battle vs undead.

Sorry, I did 5-1 as DRG and they do suck at it. You're LS still shouldn't have kicked you though.

[Jei]

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mission 5 is all about helping friends pass... if your LS can't manage to let 1 drg into the battle then they're so weak and selfish.

[Grizzlebeard]

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I remember a while back doing a Fenrir fight with some friends and the Smn, who I didn't know, was going over the tactics. Conversation went something like this:

Smn: Okay, we're all set. By the way, what's your Dragoon 2hr do?
Drg: Call Wyvern
Smn: ...
Me: Yep, his 2hr calls his winged rat of death!
Smn: ...
Rest of party: lol
Drg: Sorry =(
<lots of emote /comforts>
Smn: ...you're serious?

[lionx]

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I remember a while back doing a Fenrir fight with some friends and the Smn, who I didn't know, was going over the tactics. Conversation went something like this:

Smn: Okay, we're all set. By the way, what's your Dragoon 2hr do?
Drg: Call Wyvern
Smn: ...
Me: Yep, his 2hr calls his winged rat of death!
Smn: ...
Rest of party: lol
Drg: Sorry =(
<lots of emote /comforts>
Smn: ...you're serious?

xDDDD

[capitalistnihilist]

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Actually if the mob is T or higher everyone still takes a loss, just like you would if you had a member of your party higher. The exp for a mob is worked out according to the highest member of the party, including pets.

Yes, this is correct. I was making the assumption that the pet was EM or lower.

[Sevv]

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And I got droped from a mission 5 party that I scheduled for my LS because they said Drg couldn't do anything in a battle vs undead.

ok let me just say this about your ls bahamut this is no disrespect. They have no clue about drg 1- wyverns put up great #s vs undead, they can out dd the drg itself. 2- a drg who has done any research and has fought undead knows reg. polearms minus the few hidden effect blunts suck against undead, yet drg has a great staff skill its b-. Which means if the drg bring a staff you will put up some good #s. So now tell ls that drg with staff+wyvern wont out dd alot. I can easly out dd most class with a uncapped staff skill, yet monk is amazing vs undead if i hadnt set the party and was replaced by a monk I would not feel bad because of the greater damage monks do. Yet in your situation I found feel a bit betrayed.

[Bahamut Kaiser]

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I tolk the time to lvl up my staff attack so I could do good damage on bones, and I organized and set the date for the mission.

They all gathered up ahead of time and went on ahead without me, and when I got on they said they wouldn't wait for me cause Drg couldn't help them, even though they had another spot open.

I just goes to show the absurd abuse and undervalue that Drgs have been getting over the past 2 yrs. PPL want to agrue up and down about whether Drg was actually gimped, but popularity makes or breaks a job.

SevIfrit, please pretend I know what I'm doing, I had plenty of time to research Drg wile not getting parties. And I did so much research and copilation that I got a job offer to write a guide about Drg. I would have liked to excersise that offer, but I wasn't willing to continue with Drg any further after 60, they removed TA critical right before I hit 60 for Subs and I just said screw all these gimps.

[SelfdestButton]

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Yeah... your LS sucks.

Your argument also sounds like a justification for pompousness while only being level 60. Also, TA was as a subbed ability was never nerfed, it never added damage on anything else other than THF main.