drg/nin

[conkerx]

is there any real point for subbing a nin on drg??? i guess its ko0ol, but is it worth it???
plz help , and also wen does drg learn that thing that heals his dragon???o and has anyone herd a rumer about how the r changing the drg 2hour to somthing else?i herd that call wyvern
was goin to b changed into a 20 minute ability
ty
-conkerx

[Brayden]

Re: drg/nin

helo, it wuld b grat if u kould spel ckeq ur stuf. pls use teh search funktion and u wil find ur answerz

[Balfree]

Re: drg/nin

lolz y shud i thid is nno sk00l lolz is jhust a game fourm whre evry1 is dum like me

[Kailea]

Re: drg/nin

How about answering his question instead of being an ass......

DRG/NIN is not a combo I would choose personaly, DRGs only good weapon that is used 90% of the time is Polearm so the dual weild would be waisted, and the only thing you would get out of it would be utusumi, and DRGs dont really need it ^.^

[Tsikuro]

Re: drg/nin

Yeah, seriously.
You have Super Jump for hate reset, so /NIN is totally useless.

[Balodoth]

Re: drg/nin

It has some merit when it comes to solo. You can do a weak ninjitsu to weaken an element for your weapon skill or the wyvern's breath. In addition, when 1/4 or lower health (1/3 with AF helm) ninjitsu will trigger heal breath. So you could feasibly prevent damage and heal damage just by casting utsusemi.

In party play, dual wield is wasted, meaning you can't use its features as fully as you can with other subs. In addition, DRG seldom builds sufficient hate in a party to make utsusemi useful, and is able to lose hate easily. If you are in a skill up party, though, it might be useful for sword skill.

[conkerx]

Re: drg/nin

this is a reply to someone who relyd to my original message, ITS A FORUM, ppl dont care if i know how to spell or not, so for all of u who think that my misspelled words r annoying, wel screwyou!!!screw u in the butt, cuz all u ppl like that r gay, and only u fags would take it in the butt.
ps-if u didnt catch on, i hate ppl who complain about my spelling

[Tsikuro]

Re: drg/nin

this is a reply to someone who relyd to my original message, ITS A FORUM, ppl dont care if i know how to spell or not, so for all of u who think that my misspelled words r annoying, wel screwyou!!!screw u in the butt, cuz all u ppl like that r gay, and only u fags would take it in the butt.
ps-if u didnt catch on, i hate ppl who complain about my spelling

Conkerx falls to level 1.

[Yossar]

Re: drg/nin

this is a reply to someone who relyd to my original message, ITS A FORUM, ppl dont care if i know how to spell or not, so for all of u who think that my misspelled words r annoying, wel screwyou!!!screw u in the butt, cuz all u ppl like that r gay, and only u fags would take it in the butt.
ps-if u didnt catch on, i hate ppl who complain about my spelling

People obviously do care if you're getting more responses criticizing your spelling and inability to use the search function than actually responding to your question. Your logic fails.

[Brayden]

Re: drg/nin

this is a reply to someone who relyd to my original message, ITS A FORUM, ppl dont care if i know how to spell or not, so for all of u who think that my misspelled words r annoying, wel screwyou!!!screw u in the butt, cuz all u ppl like that r gay, and only u fags would take it in the butt.
ps-if u didnt catch on, i hate ppl who complain about my spelling

Hilarious. That helps prove more than your original statement did. Good work.

[Bahamut Kaiser]

Re: drg/nin

Drg/nin is alright for soloing, thats about it.

Ninja shadows will keep you alive longer, as well they have a low trigger for healing breath.

drawback is that healing breath alone is good enough to solo with Drg most of the time, and Brd sub can do free healing breath of the same power as Nin sub.

[Balodoth]

Re: drg/nin

BRD makes the wyvern function the same way as NIN does. I think it's really a matter of personal taste. Do you want to avoid a few hits by spending gil on tools? Or do you want endless heal breath without MP or spending gil?

When subbing BRD, you'll usually have paeon running. If the enemies have a low enough DOT, you might opt for Minuet or Mambo, although the bonus is miniscule. If you actually manage to be in a party with this sub post-50, you may even Ballad. For Heal Breath you'll be running your threnody wheel, alternately adding Lullaby or Requiem to the mix. BRD basically gives you a single boost of your choice, heal breath, and minor debuffs that land surprisingly often against Even Match.

NIN has the same elemental wheel for triggering Heal Breath. Tonko also deserves an honorable mention. Depending on the mob's ability to interrupt casting, Utsusemi can be an invaluable tool. Not only can it trigger Heal Breath, but it avoids damage. One cast alone can avoid damage equal to or greater than what Peon regenerates. In addition, since those missed hits are consecutive, it allows you time to get a hit in. Sometimes the enemy is tougher than you thought or you have an unexpected link. In those cases, it can quickly turn into a battle to trigger Heal Breath at precisely the first moment possible. That means you hit less often, as does your wyvern, all the while you feed the enemy TP. Utsusemi helps you reach the point of getting a hit in.

I have tested BRD far more than NIN, and I can say that BRD will honestly bring more to a party than NIN will. Then again, don't expect either to have a high chance of bringing in invites. When it comes to solo though, I think NIN has the edge most of the time. A handful of situations may benefit from BRD more, which I find to be sufficient for my solo needs all the time.

Sidenote: One trick I'm still perfecting is the Spirit Link Paeon. When your wyvern needs health, there's a certain point that you can Spirit Link just barely into red. If you already have paeon running, you can Spirit Link a little further into red and start singing Paeon right after. As you gain HP, the song will trigger on red HP just before going into yellow. The wyvern will use Heal Breath, granting you more HP than you lost to Spirit Link. It's a beautiful thing, I tell you.

[neighbortaru]

Re: drg/nin

conker, you assume people don't care. that is not the case, some do. I am in the care camp.

that being said, I would suggest that you watch your language in you replies.

[PyrroNeko]

Re: drg/nin

No one remembers Seyonne & Hien? The 'Great Sea Horror Killers'? *shot* He was a DRG/NIN with Hien having just Heal Breaths and such, and as someone said before, it IS good for soloing. Though I assume it would be quite hard to pull off everytime.

Proper equipment is the key. n.n

[Sadeira]

Re: drg/nin

will the nin debuffs and elemental magic attacks trigger an offensive wyvern breath?