Help New Player DRG (sub class)

[Dadelon]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

Thank You Enialas,yes I am going through all the different combos.

Just subbed red mage last night havent played it enough to make a informed
decision on it,do like the mp boost though..
Even tried Drg/Brd LMAO at the amount of "x,examines you"needless to say
I did'nt lvl with it ...........

[Enialas]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

personally i have nothing against trying out new things to see if they worked. that's how new job/sub combos come out.

find what's good for you. unfortunately for xp pt, people are pretty elietist, I would hope that the people on these boards telling you to do "this" are just trying to save you the headache of being lfg for days/weeks wondering why you aren't getting invites and not those elietists themselves.

it's like those who say blm for Promyvion is {Too Weak} I went on 2 promy missions and we won both. if blm is {Too Weak} then in truth i just leeched my Light of Holla and Light of Mea. since i leeched them with my {Too Weak} job (yes I'm elvaan too) then the truth must be that anyone can fill that spot. but no one wants anything than the "perfect" setup so they can be uber, but I've heard of many of people who "follow the rules" wipe.

"we tried 3 times with our rng, whm, nin, nin, smn, smn perfect promy setup but every time we go in there we wipe." there's something to those people, the truth is they hate rdm's #1 rule "adapt to any given situation, do not be rigid"

[MMan530]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

Most people seem to say that DRG/WAR = the only way to get party invites, but I don't know. I had much better return on DRG/THF (300 damage Double Thrust with SA isn't anything to laugh at) until 50+. Up to level 40 or so, I outdamaged anything else I partied with. After 50, though, the combination of Berserk and finally having Double Attack just seems to outweigh /THF. As a 62 DRG, I still have THF as an available subjob, but WAR is just way better.

[Atam]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

I haven't done much research on this, but I would like to know your opinion.

What is so bad about drg/mnk? You get boost and counter. Subtle blow, and Max HP boost.

All you really get with war is voke. I would think at low levels this would be a great combo. I mean until you could get berserk and double attack.

What am I missing here? It sounds great and all, but nobody does it.

[Kittyneko]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we go again... a miles long Dragoon thread.. Ow my god.. -_-

[Enialas]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

subtle blow? thfs get that.

10drg/5mnk boost: a little extra damage, stacks
30drg/15mnk dodge: if you arent 1st voke and won't be with this sub worthless
50drg/25mnk Focus: Increases accruacy for 2min every 5, excellent for jump
70drg/35mnk Chakra: a cure II or regen could do better with this ability subbed

traits: Martial Arts (all) worthless if you aren't fighting hth and if you are then you're not being as effective as you could be as a drg.

max hp bonus, if you aren't being hit, what's 20 extra hp?

counter: requires being attacked, look at max hp bonus, i've never seen this ability activate with a weapon equipped. others may have, i haven't

drg/war
10drg/5war Provoke "1st Voke" "Emergency Voke"
30drg/15war Berserk
50drg/25war Defender: Avtivate before 1st Voke and deactivate after SATA
70drg/35war Warcry: after tank's ability wears off you can keep effect going

traits
20drg/10war Def bonus: if you aren't 1st voke worthless but if you are
50drg/25war Double Attack: chance of attacking 2x
60drg/30/war Att Bonus

drg/thf

30drg/15thf Sneak Attack: A little extra damage once a min
60drg/30thf Trick Attack: a little more extra damage once a min

traits
20drg/10thf Evasion Bonus: if you aren't being hit worthless
subtle blow: in there somewhere

mnk: Boost, Focus 10, 50
war: Berserk, Warcry, Double Attack, Attack Bonus, 1st voke and Defender/Def Bonus 10, 30x2, 50x2, 60, 70
thf: SA, TA, Subtle Blow 30,60

EDIT: forgot boost lol

[Atam]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

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I should have thought of that in the begining, lol. I have had counter work with me as war/mnk, really cool to see. Was fighting a tough and did attack, counter,counter,attack.

Anyhoo, I shouldn't even have to ask about war/mnk. Thats what happens when people don't think before they say, lol.

[Sevv]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

subtle blow? thfs get that.

30drg/15mnk dodge: if you arent 1st voke and won't be with this sub worthless

Enialas umm bro look at what you said .... a Drg/Mnk can't voke! so there is no IF about it only war can voke...

/em shakes his head
/em walks away disapointed

[Enialas]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

Enialas umm bro look at what you said .... a Drg/Mnk can't voke! so there is no IF about it only war can voke...

/em shakes his head
/em walks away disapointed

an earlier post of mine

30drg/15mnk dodge: if you arent 1st voke and won't be with this sub worthless

why will you not be 1st voke with that sub? because you don't have it!

didn't know i'd have to spell that out. sorry for assuming >.>

Double Post Edited:

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I should have thought of that in the begining, lol. I have had counter work with me as war/mnk, really cool to see. Was fighting a tough and did attack, counter,counter,attack.

Anyhoo, I shouldn't even have to ask about war/mnk. Thats what happens when people don't think before they say, lol.

that's cool you've seen it happen, i've only seen it on full fledged mnks and that only happen once or twice in a battle if the tank looses hate.

one time somone said "going to dynamis as a smn/blm is good because you get tractor" and somone mentioned how that is a defeatist attitude

ifor example if you solely picked mnk as a sub because you get counter (instead of boost) is also along those lines, it requires you to have a bad tank.

[aegina]

Re: Help New Player DRG (sub class)

drg/mnk? when are you planning on using counter? and for mages, defence boost is better than yet even MORE hp to cure if you get hit.

i think even the nerfed drg/sam is still better than drg/mnk.



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