Why People say Dragoon suck???

[Tru]

hmm...noone cares.

then why is there this topic hm:spin:

[SelfdestButton]

Right, and you're not a RNG, noob ass DRK. BUt I havez respectz for peoplez who playz t3h unique jobz!1!111!
Same mindset, same response. Now go away.

[GSDragoon]

Originally posted by SelfdestButton
Right, and you're not a RNG, noob ass DRK. BUt I havez respectz for peoplez who playz t3h unique jobz!1!111!
Same mindset, same response. Now go away.

Um... how is every job not unique?

[Kailea]

Originally posted by SelfdestButton

Right, and you're not a RNG, noob ass DRK. BUt I havez respectz for peoplez who playz t3h unique jobz!1!111!

anyone have a translator for that???....and what does not being a ranger or being a DRK has anything do do with it.....

and you cant base a job off one type of mob...because every job has a mob type they have trouble with

[SelfdestButton]

Ok, noone got it. Nevermind.

[XxEva02xX]

IMO i think the only reason ppl dont like DRGs only on the sole fact that they dont cast magic and all they do is DD. in all reality DRGs may not hit as hard as DRKs but the acc. is well surpassed. as for all other DD jobs they have specific roles. (ex. - thf is used for hate control. war - can be a tank if need be.)

[Aeolus]

But samurai only DD and they're not bashed as much as Drg are.

[CarbonFibre]

Originally posted by XxEva02xX
IMO i think the only reason ppl dont like DRGs only on the sole fact that they dont cast magic and all they do is DD. in all reality DRGs may not hit as hard as DRKs but the acc. is well surpassed. as for all other DD jobs they have specific roles. (ex. - thf is used for hate control. war - can be a tank if need be.)

Samurai casts no magic and has weaker hits than a DRG (well sometimes, but talking in general from actualy weapon DMG and delay numbers). Their accuracy isn't as high as DRG either. I guess your response for "specific role" will be for more skillchaining which allows more magic bursting, etc. and being able to gain TP very fast.

[lionx]

When you see a SAM ripping two SC easily and doing 1000+ dmg with a THF sub i guess it makes them "cool". DRG doesnt usually have ultra big numbers, therefore i guess they arent as liked just because of the appeal of ultra high damage.

Then what about MNK? I dont know i havent pted with one for a LONG time..><; I can only guess that their bone killing skills and cooler looking WSs make it appealing? Bah -_-;

[yuukei]

Originally posted by SelfdestButton
Right, and you're not a RNG, noob ass DRK. BUt I havez respectz for peoplez who playz t3h unique jobz!1!111!
Same mindset, same response. Now go away.

Originally posted by Kailea-D
anyone have a translator for that???....and what does not being a ranger or being a DRK has anything do do with it.....

and you cant base a job off one type of mob...because every job has a mob type they have trouble with

SelfdestButton was being S-A-R-C-A-S-T-I-C. geez. He was actually defending drg in a way. Saying that Tru was just spouting crap (Though I can't say I totally agree with that). People really need to brush up on Sarcasm 101.

The previous point was also that DRG are supposed to be good against dragons due to their traits. But apparently they don't make one bit of difference against dragon type HNMs like Fafnir.

My opinion is that Drg are great exp jobs before level 60. But they taper off in strength after that because they lack the necessary tools that other jobs may have.

Now when I say necessary, I'm talking about what 99% of the population percieves as being the setups that will net you the best possible exp. I'm sure a drg would do just fine in any party situation. But many see the drg slot as making them kill slower, preventing them from doing the bigger numbers they'd be able to do in order to take down mobs much quicker and making the exp slower than if someone else were in the slot.

Mind you I don't have any firsthand knowledge of any of this myself. But that's what everyone seems to be saying. And that's all the majority of us can really go by anyway until we get to that point.

[nickofearth]

Originally posted by Rougtan
im seeing Dragoon/Theif becoming a viable class combo for this reason....

with the theif sub, you get added evasion of im right. Since Dragoon's cant take hits, like theif's, they need to find another way to live.

edit: btw if anyone has played this combo and can give me some info that would be great. I thinkin of this for my character. Race is Elvaan btw.

When I was playing almost a year ago I was a DRG/THF. I was pretty good. I could keep up damage wise using Sneak Attack + Double Thrust and wyvern's breath compared to a thief using Sneak Attack +Trick Attack + Viper Bite. DRGS make a good SA+TA buddy, I was that alot >_> and I am sure my PT didn't mind the TH.

[Horris]

Im a relativly n00b player, hell only just got my subjob so let along an advace job, however its pretty obvious that all jobs are diffrent, but you cant claim that one isnt as good as another. It comes down to the major factor, "PERSONEL PREFRENCE" if you like to play one class, then play it. If you want to but that subjob in and everyone else screams no, do it anyway!

I plan to become a dragoon, {If i ever get to lvl 30} I like them, I also plan to sub RDM for it aswell, I like them to.

[Kafeen]

Originally posted by Horris
Im a relativly n00b player, hell only just got my subjob so let along an advace job, however its pretty obvious that all jobs are diffrent, but you cant claim that one isnt as good as another. It comes down to the major factor, "PERSONEL PREFRENCE" if you like to play one class, then play it. If you want to but that subjob in and everyone else screams no, do it anyway!

I plan to become a dragoon, {If i ever get to lvl 30} I like them, I also plan to sub RDM for it aswell, I like them to.

I've used that combo for soloing but its not going to get you a party. As a Dragoon its hard enough getting one as DRG/WAR or DRG/THF never mind subbing a mage job.

[Draco Dagon]

First, allow me to introduce myself, a dragoon-loving roleplayer who's dragoon is lvl 32.

Alright, I did go through some posts, and skipped the rest.

I must say, it is clear dragoon is an unpopular class. I also admit it is not a necessary class like the white mage or the <insert your favorite tank> job. However, the dragoon is a very fun class to play. Mind you, I didn't exactly pick dragoon for any the above reasons, I really picked it because I heard from a friend on the same server (Fairy) as myself that dragoon was a very rare job in the high levels. So I wanted a challenge. I've heard numerous rumors about the dragoon class-some I have yet to witness, for instance, one is the dragoon doing almost no damage at higher levels-my favorite rumor I just loved being debunked was that the dragon cannot move through-out the zones with you. The only thing I don't like is Call Wyvern being the 2hr ability of dragoon, but I've gotten better-especially after getting Spirit Link.


My favorite party I ever organized was we had four dragoons (I forget the other three's subjobs though) and 2 white mages, was in Yhoater Jungle as well and we literally able to get 200exp in only a few minutes and that was without using any weapon skills.


The dragoon may not be a good tank-but then, it's not supposed to be. The dragoon class is an all-around class, slap on any sufficient-lvl'd subjob and it can do a good job. Of course, that's merely with a hume-race dragoon. I think (and probably many other dragoons probably agree with me) that though the dragoon is great as an all-around class, the best attribute to strengthen it is dexterity/accuracy followed by strength/attack, which is why I've started to rethink about my subjobs (I could use my whm, war, or thf as subjobs, but I'd have to level the thief again).




I've found some here speaking of the samurai too, I must say it is an interesting job atleast (though I personally hate the actual samurai). What makes the samurai so great is it's able to get TP so fast it can do a numerous number of weapon skills in any battle compared to all-else.



So, all-n-all, the job you like most ultimately determines your favorite attribute and style of play also. There are PROs and CONs to every job, Square Enix made it this way so no job can be better or more "important" than another ('cept the white mage, of course), to be fair atleast.

[lionx]

Off topic a bit but...WHMs arent more important than other mage jobs...we just excel at healing a little bit better than say the RDM. But RDMs can heal pretty fine definitely. Not to mention BLM/WHM and SMN/WHMs as well...they can heal pretty well...just not as well as RDM...same concept. Those mage jobs can do a good job too. Although i must say that Refeshing jobs are a much more different story :x

You can have a RDM BLM and BRD backline and have extremely fast exp, you just sacrifice the things a WHM can bring is all. Same with a WHM BLM RDM...you just sacrifice what a BRD and SMN can do....its just basically swapping in different mage jobs for different mage roles for different pros and cons...the only thing i feel a little little limited on is refreshing jobs. Doing WHM/BRD when theres no refresher(or when i feel up to it) isnt that bad but again its just another pro/con thing :/

EDIT: I guess it also the same for melee now that i think about it...change a PLD for a NIN and you can have faster but riskier exp (depends on mob though). Replace a RNG for a DRK and instead of more raw damage its more controlled and you get DRK Stun and magic...although some jobs have more impact than others when replaced.