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  • #31
    Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

    Don't those 2 statements mean the same thing? o_O;

    Actually not necessarily, despite what's been said by the poster

    It could also mean you are too low for that the group is fighting.


    And yes, cap your scythe skill. There's your big problem right there.
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    • #32
      Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

      Originally posted by Mog View Post
      Originally posted by reklesgemini View Post
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      Not to point any fingers or anything.... but how did you manage to get a peacock charm at level 38?


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      • #33
        Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

        Oh yeah, and how (or why) are his weapons underleveled in skill?

        I mean, don't usually they cap each lvl you are on? Just thought that was weird.

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        • #34
          Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

          Drks don't have that luxury.
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          • #35
            Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

            It really is a pain in the ass to cap both G.Sword and Scythe while exping. Any DRK who manages it is just plain lucky with skill up rates.
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            • #36
              Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

              wow... some of you guys blow my mind. What are ya? GM's?

              anyways, I'm going to stop trying to cap both weapons and focus on scythe from here on out for exp parties. Someone on a different forum had recommended I try capping both at the same time. Bad idea...

              and I guess you're right, I have noticed my misses more then others cause my attack delay can take so damn long. But another thing I've also noticed is that my TP does go up quicker then most in the party (cept for those damn Samurai's). So that's gotta be a good thing.

              Thanks alot guys, you're all very insightful.
              Last edited by reklesgemini; 04-30-2007, 08:52 AM.

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              • #37
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                lol, oh and I just scrolled down thankin anyone that replied.

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                • #38
                  Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

                  No, don't ignore either weapon. Focusing on one in EXP is a good idea, but try to keep the other capped once the 1st one is. Failing that, look for skill up parties. It's annoying I know, but when you reach the 60's you'll really want to have access to both Guillotine and Spinning Slash.
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                  • #39
                    Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

                    You're in an HNMLS, you shouldn't have any trouble having one of them come voke shit for you while you swing at it for skill ups. Half hour of that should get you like 4 skill levels. Do that every once in a while and you'll be ok.
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                    • #40
                      Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

                      Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                      Actually it was. There's an old interview done a while back with I believe Sage Sundi, and it was officially stated 2 DEX = 1 Accuracy, but they also said that +acc is the best way to go.
                      I know Sage Sundi has done interviews about that. I only remember the statements of him saying that 2 STR = 1 attack, not 2 DEX = 1 acc.... If you can find it I'd be intrested to see since I can't seem to find it.

                      Originally posted by Armando View Post
                      It's been proven multiple times on individual levels. I, too, have tested it and can vouch for its validity. The method is simple - find a mob, take off or add accuracy until you find the exact point until your /check message changes. Take off X Accuracy, then add 2X DEX, and watch the /check return to what it was. I have no links to offer, since the test is fairly straightforward and most people don't bother posting screenshots or anything about it, nor do I bother saving any links on it. I thought it was widely accepted as true by now
                      Actually all that this method proves is that 2 DEX is needed to cause a change that 1 acc can do. I doesn't prove that 2 DEX is exactly 1 acc. This is important to know if you are trying to shoot for something to be higher, because if 1 of the two improves just slightly more at this low a change then it'll be significantly greater an effect at larger numbers.
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                      • #41
                        Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

                        Originally posted by Macht View Post
                        Actually all that this method proves is that 2 DEX is needed to cause a change that 1 acc can do. I doesn't prove that 2 DEX is exactly 1 acc. This is important to know if you are trying to shoot for something to be higher, because if 1 of the two improves just slightly more at this low a change then it'll be significantly greater an effect at larger numbers.
                        I'm going to arrive at the same conclusion through different logic:

                        2 STR = 1 Attack, but it also figures into a seperate STR part of the equation. In the same way, Dex could do that to acc.

                        However, Dex does crit hit rate (supposedly...) and if Dex in any way affects the evasion /check of a mob, then it's adding acc. Simple as that. Any additional function that Dex has on hit rate is plausible but at this point, kinda unlikely (much to my discontent).
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                        • #42
                          Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

                          Macht, the 2 DEX -> 1 Accuracy conversion holds true even for higher amounts of DEX. Try it yourself, you'll see. And yeah, DEX does affect crit rate, but it seems it's divided into tiers. From what I've read, your DEX needs to exceed the mob's AGI by a certain amount before your extra DEX starts having a significant effect on crit rate.

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                          • #43
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                            I.e. completely useless in any situation where "builds" would matter.

                            P.S. I've managed to land 3 of the last 6 posts in this thread! >.>;;
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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Lmnop
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