over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

[Armando]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

Stop overhunting. It's as easy as that.

And yes, it takes a lot more than +15 Accuracy to get a 90% hit rate. A lot more.

DEX is the most useless stat in the game.

I think that honor goes to CHR, unless Subtle Blow counts. It's hard to be more useless than Subtle Blow in an EXP party setting.

[reklesgemini]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

.....right.


so for my current lvl, what are some good acc. gear?

[Armando]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

No. I'm serious. The biggest factor in your accuracy is the level of the mob. Anything beyond low IT, and you'll suck on it.

Battle Gloves, technically Leaping Boots, in 2 levels pick up Woodsman Rings and Tilt Belt. Oh, and if you have a WAR, tell him to Shield Break. If he asks why, just tell him to do it and he'll see.

[nanatsu]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/advanced.php

having posted that...

Jaeger Ring and sole sushi or rice dumplings is all you can do until lvl 40 when you can get snipersx2 or woodsmansx2. Then there's life belt at lvl 48.

EDIT: Forgot about Tilt Belt.

[reklesgemini]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

thanks for the link, works like a charm

but why forget the tilt belt? it's dirt cheap and i can live with the -eva

[Srxjo]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

he didn't mean forget it he ment he forgot about it

[Macht]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

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Woo! another one bites the dust!!!

Yeah, really pretty much the #1 thing for your accuracy is your weapon skill. After that will be accuracy and dex. If I recall right this site has a thread were a person tested this, getting items that raise the weapon skill directly will give you far better results (which is probably why there are so few items that do skills directly).

Outside of that it's pretty much a balancing act of acc. and DEX. DEX does have synergy to improving accuracy but primarily you need the accuracy to be there for DEX make use of the synergy.

Still like though how many still assume 2 DEX = 1 acc. it was never a direct statement by SE for this to be. The only direct statement they had made was 2 STR = 1 attack, and with testing you can clearly see that 2 VIT = 1 defense. Though 2 DEX = 1 acc. point is not something I've seen hard data proving.

In most testing I've seen to figure it out the general statement was that 2 DEX = 0.7% acc out of 100% (So by end game with like 80 or so DEX it's only contributing about 28% of the accuracy. Don't recall however seeing any testing that tested +acc. items directly to see how much out of 100% they improved.

EDIT:

Though assuming that the accuacy is treated like attack and defense then it likely ramps up to huge numbers as well, then taking the assumption that SE maybe capped accuracy as a single byte variable then 1 acc. could then equal 0.3% improvement. So +15 acc. should be about a 5.8% accuracy improvement, but +10 DEX is like 3.5% accuracy improvement. +50 accuracy assuming what I was said is true (no clue, been so long since I looked at this), then that would be about a 20% accuracy improvement.

[Jei]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

You need your very own personal Bard slave. Works for all level.

Either what you're hunting is too high or you're too low for what you're hunting.

Don't those 2 statements mean the same thing? o_O;

[Karinya]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

The #1 factor is level. DDs, especially physical ones, should avoid being more than 1 level lower than the highest level person in the party, and if everyone is having trouble hitting (or is hitting for crap damage, which happens a LOT with sushi), fight something lower level or a lower def/eva mob family. (Low def/eva mob families tend to have nasty attacks. Hope your tank is good.)

But if you hit 2/3 of the time, you're not really missing a lot for a low level party. Merit parties are fighting very weak mobs (a VT to 75 mob is nowhere near as relatively difficult as a VT to 50 or 60) and often have 15+ skill *more* than the level 75 cap (between skill merits and skill gear) in addition to their 50+ acc gear. So it's not useful to compare their hit% to that of a lower level party facing *real* VTs, or even ITs.

If you're *missing* 2/3 of the time, then you're missing a lot. Unless there is an undispelled eva boost, you're blinded or your skill is uncapped, then that monster is most likely too high level for a DD of your level to damage effectively.

[Armando]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

Still like though how many still assume 2 DEX = 1 acc. it was never a direct statement by SE for this to be. The only direct statement they had made was 2 STR = 1 attack, and with testing you can clearly see that 2 VIT = 1 defense. Though 2 DEX = 1 acc. point is not something I've seen hard data proving.

It's been proven multiple times on individual levels. I, too, have tested it and can vouch for its validity. The method is simple - find a mob, take off or add accuracy until you find the exact point until your /check message changes. Take off X Accuracy, then add 2X DEX, and watch the /check return to what it was. I have no links to offer, since the test is fairly straightforward and most people don't bother posting screenshots or anything about it, nor do I bother saving any links on it. I thought it was widely accepted as true by now

[nanatsu]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

You need your very own personal Bard slave. Works for all level.
Don't those 2 statements mean the same thing? o_O;

They do mean the same thing. :p That was done on purpose to get my point across.

[Vyuru]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

Yeah, as Armando said it has been tested.

I wouldn't nessacerily say that dex is the most useless stat in the game, stacking +dex gear at the right levels should yield some nice +crit rate results. However your damage per swing will be slightly lower than the other people who go for the +str builds, but with enough +dex your accuracy should be either on par or slightly above theirs.

I wouldn't recommend a +dex build to anyone, yes in my early days I went for this, it's a gamble if you land a critical hit or not in an exp party, I think the gamble paid off for me but I'll never be 100% sure about that. So +dex useless? I think not, but nor would I recommend it as the main stat to focus on as a two handed melee build.

And keep in mind, I had something on the order of.... +20ish acc through +dex/acc gear at your level and I had maybe a 80% hit rate I'd guess, it's been awhile.

[Malacite]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

Still like though how many still assume 2 DEX = 1 acc. it was never a direct statement by SE for this to be.

Actually it was. There's an old interview done a while back with I believe Sage Sundi, and it was officially stated 2 DEX = 1 Accuracy, but they also said that +acc is the best way to go.

[Lmnop]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

Just thought I should mention to the OP...

you think your acc sucks? I might suggest eyeing the acc of your fellow melee. You'll prolly find them sucking just as much. They may look like they're doing better just because they're swinging more, but if you're getting tp at roughly the same rate as them, you're doing fine (or you all suck equally -- which is the case of all pre-60 melee). Also, in a few levels you'll be getting the spell Absorb-TP (you have been casting your dark magic spells and keeping your dark magic skill leveled, right?) and when it lands, it helps significantly.

[Nazo]

Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

oh yea, almost forgot

my Scythe lvl is at 106 and GS at 102 ;_;

am I close to capping one of them?

At lvl 38 scythe cap is 117. 1 skill level = 1 acc at your level so you're -11 acc down from your underskilled weapons, effectively leaving you at +4 overall.