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  • #16
    Re: Pulling as a drk...?

    a) I hate pulling. I like to sit around and chat (read: bug my party members), not be on the move 24/7.

    b) I've done more pulling w/out shadows than with. It's not that bad. The only time I ever pulled in a party against fast mobs, I was war/nin but the party was killing so fast that I was often out there w/out shadows grabbing them. Granted, I have a defense swap macro that makes things a bit more painless, but in general, getting hit twice won't hurt mp too much. That's a Regen and the pld cures me for a little extra hate (that party, I was also the only melee, SCing with SMN so every bit of time I wasted not swinging axes was time wasted for the SC/MB). But at any rate, most of the game isn't spent on "fast mobs" and so, Drks do fine.

    c) Mnks and Drgs suck at pulling. aside from job ability claims, all they have is pebbles and Tiphia Stings. They're not throwing their Sting any sooner than Aeni's throwing that Bomb Core, and you'd be surprised how hard pebbles actually are to come by.

    d) Drk Marksmanship is a very sad E rank. But hey, you're not using mp, and if there's a chance you'll stick defense down, may as well go for it (though I wouldn't attempt wasting acid bolts w/out SEVERE equip swap macros). You can always just use bronze bolts.

    e)Whytf would anyone want a Corsair puller? I don't understand that, still. In my eyes, a cor/nin is the same as a sam with a bow. And for that matter, I don't see why RNGs are #1. You're sitting still if you're wide scanning, or you're auto-running into a Torama. if you're in a party with Thf AND rng, I think the thf should pull and the rng should stay in camp and convey wide scan results. But I like parties that - you know - talk and work together and stuff. No one else shares this love.
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    • #17
      Re: Pulling as a drk...?

      Originally posted by Lmnop
      a) I hate pulling. I like to sit around and chat (read: bug my party members), not be on the move 24/7.
      DRKs have an MP pool. If they pull, they'll miss out on a ballad with a BRD. Even with a RDM, most RDMs I've partied with as a DRK (Read FFXI pet peeves) put me on an odd rotation where I don't get a refresh until I hit 30-50mp ... don't ask why, they do it. If I'm pulling ... hahaha.

      c) Mnks and Drgs suck at pulling. aside from job ability claims, all they have is pebbles and Tiphia Stings. They're not throwing their Sting any sooner than Aeni's throwing that Bomb Core, and you'd be surprised how hard pebbles actually are to come by.
      It's a given that if I'm partied with a MNK, I'll pull. Most JP DRGs I PT'd with make their tathlums on the spot and pull with it, but that's a very specific experience. In one PT with a DRG in TB, I did pull with poison.

      d) Drk Marksmanship is a very sad E rank. But hey, you're not using mp, and if there's a chance you'll stick defense down, may as well go for it (though I wouldn't attempt wasting acid bolts w/out SEVERE equip swap macros). You can always just use bronze bolts.
      Marksmanship rating has nothing to do with aggro'ing a mob. However, if you don't hit it and the tank doesn't voke off right away, some mage healing is gonna get smacked (Heal aggro sucks)

      e)Whytf would anyone want a Corsair puller? I don't understand that, still. In my eyes, a cor/nin is the same as a sam with a bow. And for that matter, I don't see why RNGs are #1. You're sitting still if you're wide scanning, or you're auto-running into a Torama. if you're in a party with Thf AND rng, I think the thf should pull and the rng should stay in camp and convey wide scan results. But I like parties that - you know - talk and work together and stuff. No one else shares this love.
      Basically, anyone who specializes with ranged should pull and especially if they sub NIN. Otherwise, why else are you subbing NIN as a COR or RNG since the change in how range attacks work (You're not going to get anything out of dual wield outside of having another weapon with +racc/+ratk stat) Getting that TP when landing a hit on the mob is nice. COR's buff lasts a long time as well, so they're not constantly buffing like a BRD would be doing...

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      • #18
        Re: Pulling as a drk...?

        I pull quite often, preferably against mobs with MP so I can aspir if I miss a refresh cycle.

        Keep a crossbow (doesnt matter if its good or not) and buy Crossbow bolts from an NPC (check a site for the npc), 6g a bolt or less. No point in pulling with bloody bolts or other expensive bolts.

        It can help keep your markmanship capped aswell which is always good when you want to get back some HP with a bloody bolt. Even though we have an E rating, its not hard landing a hit.
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