im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

[xigbal]

whats better great sword ot sythe/scythe what ever you call it

[Wiseman40]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

You'll need to level both greatsword and scythe. They're fairly equal overall, but DRK has a little more skill in scythe so you'll get new ws a little sooner with it assuming it's maxed.

Also, which one is better generally depends on which weapon you have at that particular time. Sometimes the greatsword you can get your hands on will be better than the scythe, for example.

[xigbal]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

ok thanks

[aegina]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

yeah, keep both a gs and a scythe on you. switch back and forth between fights every now and then to keep both skilled up. that's what works best

[Rakarth]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

This is truly a question that is debated till the end of time

But here's my personal experience after gettin DRK to lvl 65 :

At the low lvls, there is no doubt that Greatsword will be the most usefull weapon. Since Scythe aint the easiest weapon to use in Skillchains. I thought "Baaah! Great sword all the way!"... but that thought sure got shaked at lvl 60 when you could feel the need of Guillotine. So I spend what? 1,5 - 2 months gettin Scythe to lvl 200, So like said earlier. Keep both lvled as good as possible because else it will be a hell when hittin lvl 60-65

[Erebus]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

Keep them both capped and if you can manage it, Great Axe as well. Pretty much all ws from great sword and scythe suck until the 60's, so using Great Axe before that gives you Sturmwind, one of the strongest Ws in the mid-levels and probably up until 60.

[Aeni]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

If you can, keep all options available.

[10-29]

DRK/WAR
Scythe - Does not have any good WS, but the dps cannot be beat.
GAxe - Sturmwind is destructive even without Sneak Attack.
GSword - Powerslash on last resort is simply awesome. Stay away from Hard Slash tho.

DRK/NIN
Axe - Raging Axe ftw. Quite destructive with Last Resort
Sword - Not a good dps solution, even when dual wielded, but Fast Blade & Burning Blade is nice.

DRK/THF - No thanks.

DRK/??? - Consult your party members first.

[30-49]

DRK/WAR
You're wanted to be a SATA partner for the THF in the party. Don't whine. Do it. Scythe is still your top dps weapon, but look to Gsword for Freeze Bite and Power Slash for distortion possibilities. Until then, you're going to cry either way. Sturmwind doesn't do shit at these levels anymore and leave the breaking to a true main WAR with Gaxe.

DRK/THF
GSword - SA Hardslash owns.
GAxe - SA Sturmwind owns harder.

DRK/NIN
Honestly, don't. You just will suck harder than Ms. Felicity's first BJ of the day.

DRK/??? - More than likely you won't be ask to sub anything ... weird.

[49-59]

DRK/WAR
You're now a real dps monster with a scythe. Not quite like a main WAR, but you're now able to proc double attacks in your fighting. This helps with TP gain, but not really nice when you get too much hate. Best to have a main THF in party.

DRK/THF
GAxe - Honestly, Sturmwind is getting old and so is your dps. Other than keeping skill capped, there's no real good reason to keep this.
GSword - Crescent Moon rocks for Distortion, but without TA until 60, you're not going to be appreciated ripping hate off of the tank like this. You need to end Crescent Moon on a SC, cause the damage actually sucks if opening.
Scythe - Vorpal Scythe to open things up. Try to keep SA on it, because it tends to miss a lot.

DRK/??? - Novelty only and with understanding players. Usually casual drug users.

[60-64]

DRK/WAR - You get Guillotine. Guillotine gets you. Literally. Expect to die 1~5 times an exp outing if you're not careful and don't manage hate properly. Guaranteed way of dying: stacking all JAs with this crazy ws.

DRK/THF - Sickle Moon on SATA is a godsend. You're starting to get a taste of end game. Keep scythe capped though, because it comes in handy in a few levels. However, don't expect to keep up with burst and dps of a DRK/WAR. It's not going to happen here.

DRK/??? - See above.

[65]

DRK/WAR - Cross Reaper blows donkey chunks unless you're the best equipped DRK on your server. Keep to Guillotine if possible and don't be afraid of suggesting Fragmentation to the party, an oft overlooked level 2 sc.

DRK/THF - Cross Reaper is really nice, especially on SATA. You might even get lucky and get a taste of true level 3 sc'ing. BLMs will love you for this.

DRK/??? - See above.

[66-70/75]

Depending on your end game priorities, most players tend to just drop off leveling once they hit 70. There's many factors, including Genkai 5, Optical Hat (desire for one) and even ZMs (Sky Access), Promies (Tavnazian Access) and rank missions.

DRK/WAR - At this point, this is considered about as suicidal as pouring hemlock into your morning Ovaltine. If you can grin and bear the deaths and don't mind the heckling of your party compadres, go for it. Guillotine will still be your best dps, provided you have enough acc to back that shit up. Don't got acc? You're not going to like anything else ... Spinning Slash has horrible accuracy, so... DON'T. EVEN. THINK. ABOUT. IT.

DRK/THF - Spinning Slash whore. 'nuff said. Occassionally you'd want Cross Reaper, so keep both weapons capped if at all possible.

[Stockyboy]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

GS and Scythe. What was said above pretty much covers it.

[wolfjorg]

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Yeah, I just would cap one weapon during a skill up, and ask my sc partner if they could skill off the other weapon, 9 out of 10 times they can.

At end game a DRK best friends are a WAR and DRG for light , that I have seen so far.

So yeah switch out during xp pts if you can, or grab that skill up party shout in jeuno, I always do if no xp has come by, gotta grab xp some how lol.

[UnnamedGalka]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

Early on, WHM makes an excellent sub for DRK.

The ability to cure yourself while soloing, and then being able to backup cure in places like the Dunes is incredibly useful.

[Murphie]

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I'd personally rather have a DRK sub WAR in places like the dunes and Qufim for backup provokes, or even main tanking. They use the same gear that all other Melee can during those levels, so it's not like the wet tissue paper defense they have later.

Then again, every party is different, so you never know.

[Stromgarde]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

Between 20 and 30, the best damage subs available for DRK are Ranger and Dragoon.

As for backup tanks... well, even monk is better suited to that than DRK.

[Murphie]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

Well, provided a DRK isn't using Last Resort at that moment, I don't really see why. Yeah, MNK is a perfectly fine backup (or even main) tank in the dunes, but it's not like a DRK is going to be wearing cloth armor. They can wear everything a WAR can, and they'll have provoke. That's really all I ask for from a backup tank.

Later on? Of course I wouldn't ask a DRK to do that, but in the dunes? Come on.

[durecellrabbit]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

What kind of mobs do you do skill up on? I've got my GS and scythe at 20-25 and I want to cap them before going to the dunes however the mobs I exp on don't give skillups and mobs with high defence are normally too hard.

[Aeolus]

Re: im gonna start dark knight soon i have a quick question

You shouldnt bother about capping them before you go to the Dunes. I did the same with drk as I did with all the other jobs I lved multiple weapons on, lv both GS and Scythe as high as possible on the mobs Im exping off, not going for anything too hard just for skill ups cause usually ends in death. Once you go to the dunes just switch the weapons about while lving till you get them bothed capped. It doesnt usually happen in a lv tho, usually takes from about 10-14 to cap them both fully.