Soul Eater... how exactly does it work?

[Gman]

I browsed the search results and couldnt find anything indepth regarding my question. Please no one link to a topic that does, because I probably just missed it.

Instead, could someone tell me 1) how souleater damage is calculated, and 2) how the HP loss is calculated, and any variables affecting it.

Thanks.

[Mithrael]

Souleater takes your HP and adds it directly to damage. It's a 1:1 relationship. Souleater has no effect on elementals (you lose hp, but you gain no damage).

Souleater is generally 10% of your current hp. If you have 1300 hp, souleater would be 130 for the first swing, (1300-130)*.1 = 117 for the second, 105 for the third, etc.

The AF helm adds 5% dmg, so 195 for the first hit, 165 for the second, 141 for the third, etc.

I'm not exactly sure how the new Lv.50 body piece affects it, but word is that it's effect does not stack with the AF helm.

[Darkedge]

Originally posted by Mithrael
souleater would be 130 for the first swing, (1300-130)*.1 = 117 for the second, 105 for the third, etc.

130 for only the first swing? or is it 130 added to normal attack?

[Ashtyr]

It's added to the normal attack damage.

[Dr. Evil]

Originally posted by Mithrael
Souleater takes your HP and adds it directly to damage. It's a 1:1 relationship. Souleater has no effect on elementals (you lose hp, but you gain no damage).

Souleater is generally 10% of your current hp. If you have 1300 hp, souleater would be 130 for the first swing, (1300-130)*.1 = 117 for the second, 105 for the third, etc.

The AF helm adds 5% dmg, so 195 for the first hit, 165 for the second, 141 for the third, etc.

I'm not exactly sure how the new Lv.50 body piece affects it, but word is that it's effect does not stack with the AF helm.

That sounds about right. What I always did when I pulled Soul Eater was macro in my STR gauntlets (STR+ 7) and my AF helm, all the damage stacks, as an example:

I do 150 damage per swing.

I use SoulEater.

Bezerk

Last Resort.

Equip Gauntlets + AF helm.

First hit does 400+

See the tank after that lol.
After that the damage does'nt really increase much, but you lose less HP. It only drains HP if the attack hits.

[little ninja]

lol there was nothing like swinging for almost 400 damage, an then dbl atk decides to kick in for around 360ish. by then the mob hated me. so i found myself running for cover.

[Lanze]

Originally posted by Dr. Evil
First hit does 400+

I'd still kick your ass

[Gman]

Thanks for the answers. Does anyone know if the formula is the same when subbing DRK?

I was in Kuftal skilling dagger on crabs and I decided to use souleater. I was RDM 65/ DRK 30 and I was doing 15-20 dmg on normal attacks. When I activated souleater, I did about 50 dmg, 47, etc, then i removed it quick because I got hate. I had about 850 hp to start, so the first hit should have done 15 base + 85 (10% of 850) for 100 dmg total, but it didnt. Before I knew it my HP was down to 400, so it sure seemed like I suffered the HP penalty though.

[Mithrael]

It's 5% for subjobs, though I'm not sure if you still lose 10% hp. They changed it so THF couldn't sub DRK and land 1800dmg dancing edges and eviscerations on IT mobs while gaining absolutely no hate... Around the same time they changed sneak attack so it has no DEX bonus for subs. Same reason, /THF was too powerful with multi-hit weapon skills like guillotine and pentathrust.

[Izual]

To my knowledge, the effect of souleater is cut in half when used as a sub. In other words, each hit would take 5% of your hp rather than 10%.

[Gman]

Ok thanks. ^^

[LadyPeorth]

I heard the ratio was as follows:

With /DRK:
5% of HP added, 10% HP lost

With DRK/:

10% of HP added, 10% HP lost

With DRK/ + SoulEater Enhancement + 1:
15% of HP added, 10% HP lost

I can only guess that:

DRK/ + SoulEater Enhancement + 2:
20% of HP added, 10% HP lost

I'll hafta do some tests with a higher leveled friend of mine whom is a DRK. My DRK is only 37 so I can only comment from his discoveries

[Mithrael]

Nah.

With DRK/ + SoulEater Enhancement +1 (AF Helm)

is 15% of HP added, 15% HP lost.


Izual reported in another thread that the lv.50 JSE body does not stack with the AF helm, so as of right now, it's not possibly to have Souleater Enhancement +2

[Drogen_Shomuro]

Pardon the ignorant question, but does souleater stack with ranged attacks?

[Gumbercules]

No it doesn't.