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  • 61-64 tank+drk+war frontline question

    For a lv61-64 frontline of pld, war, and drk, the standard seems to be drk/thf and war/sam.

    I was wondering if anyone has tried it with drk/war and war/thf.

    I'm asking because....

    1: the fragmentation damage seems pretty weak with war/sam raging rush ending the chain.

    2. Thf sub makes my regular hits and guillo weak relatively, but then again, i have a lot more fun with souleater, so that's nice also. I use straight TA +guillo since there's no point in trying to turn the mob if i'm the first person in the renkei.

    If we give the hate control duties to the war, then, in theory...

    1: The war can end the chain with a sneak'd raging rush, giving a minor renkei damage boost, while still planting hate on pld.

    2: Drk can sub war for more overall dmg, while war dmg output is not really affected since /sam or /thf is not a big difference.

    3: Lack of meditate means no breaks, which hurts.

    4. Souleater guillo probably a bad idea here.


    So, basically can war/thf be a sufficient hate controller, and is it worth the loss of breaks and meditate. What about if we have a ninja tank, can war/thf work here?


    Normally, i would just ask the war to sub thief and try it out, since i make my own parties usually. But since lately 2/3's of my parties have been JP players, and it's hard enough to recruit them as is, i dont want to make crap pt's, lest they further not want to pt with NA. Ya it's lame, but a little research goes a long way in being pt leader.

  • #2
    in my LS PT we tried many different sub job and torture our Pal/War tank. in my opinion if your tank is is a Pal its okay other 2 Melees /War or /Sam and you dont really need a Thf or /Thf. in Nin/War PT you must need a Thf or /Thf, its a must!.

    about War/Sam its alot of hate if the warrior wears FULL AF playing DPS Role i doublt the Pal will be able to keep the aggro. Drk/Thf TA+Guillotine will not cut it, there are many times i thought i missed trick attack then found out it was my first swing of Guillotine missed.

    if your tank is a Pal and have Rdm And the War/Sam is not equiped full AF, you dont really have to /Thf.
    Break can make a big different so War/Sam use Break is way to go unless you have Brd in PT (usually my PTs i have Brd taking Rdm's spot)
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ednoon
      Drk/Thf TA+Guillotine will not cut it, there are many times i thought i missed trick attack then found out it was my first swing of Guillotine missed.
      Good points by ednoon, just one thing to comment -

      I thought trick stacked with all of the hits while sneak only stack with first hit of guillotine.

      Is this not true?
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      • #4
        it is true, they all get the effect of trick attack. You missed trick, first hit wouldn't matter
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        • #5
          my last JP PT had nin/war, war/thf and drk/war (me) as the front line melees.... it went very well.... 12,000xp in a little less than 3 hrs off toramais in Onzozo....

          the war/thf was the hate regulator, we were doing Guillotine -> Raging rush SA+TA onto the nin/war... renkei was about 3-500 from me, and 4-500 from the war... plus about 800 damage from MB... the nin/war could keep hate fine most of the time (except chain 5)...

          while I did a lot more damage with war sub, I had to take care not to use souleater until 5th chain... if souleater didn't turn to hate onto me right away, the following hits would....

          did 1400 guillotine with berserk on and souleater a few times on the 5th chain.. @_@ But luckily the mages were always ready for it and I was back to full health pretty much the moment I finish executing it....

          It was a nice change of pace from drk/thf, and I liked being a real damage dealer again... but at times, it was quite stressful, having to worry about pulling too much hate and tanking on the 5th chain
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          • #6
            im guessing you must had a bard in PT.
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            • #7
              DRK/WAR spamming Guillotine and you lived?

              lol, surprise
              "LOLOLOL /COMFORT THF
              BIG BEN SAY DONT WORRY ITS OK DANCINNG EDGES IS BETTER THAN GUILTOTOTSLIENS ON INTERCILRBLY TOUGH MONSTERS SO DONT CRY /HAPPY OK MOST TIME DANCINGS EDGES DO 700++ DAMAGES AND GU ILOOTINE NOT DO SO MUCH ON INCRTOTOUGHS IT MAKE BIG BEN SAD FACE =(((( CAUSE WORK SO HARD FOR GUILOTTIEN AND STILL NOT AS GOOD AS THF =((((99

              OH AND RPECLISA THAT WONT WORK CAUSE SPINGSLSASH IS FRAGMENTATION PROPERTY AND SHARKBITE IS FRAGMENATION PROERPTERY SO FRAMG TO RFRAGM DOESNT WORK IT MUST BE FUSION AND FRAGMNETION IN NBA PLAYOFFS RASHEED WALLACE AWS FUSION AND BIG BEN WAS FRAMGNETATION AND WE MAKE CRAZY LIGHT SKILLCHAIN ONTO LAKERS FACES WHAT NOW LAKERS???? WHAT NOW??? IM CHAMPIONS NOW THATS WHAT"

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              • #8
                no brd in the PT.. the backliners were rdm, blm and smn... (the smn had the most MP I've seen to date.. a little less than 1200mp).
                granted these guys were all pretty veteran players... 3 rank 10s and I was the lowest rank at rank 7....

                and we only did 1 renkei per battle... I wouldn't call 1 guillotine per mob spamming it... ^^
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