Drks in PvP?

[Black Heart]

Now that Player vs Player has been confirmed for a future update, I've been thinking...

I know that nothing is concrete yet and we don't know how the system will work, but wouldn't Dark Knights own just about everyone in PvP?

Dark Knights are usually shunned for parties because they do SO much damage that they draw hate and can't take hits well enough to survive against tough monsters. If fighting against another players though where hate doesn't come into question I would think a Dark/Samurai or /War would dish out way too much damage for Paladins and other tanks to handle. I would think Ninjas, Rangers, and Dragoons could get around it however since Ninjas have Blink, Rangers can deal heavy damage at distances, and Dragoons have Super Jump. Every other class though would probably get demolished by the Dark's raw power.

I'm probably just making un-founded assumptions since we don't know any details about the PvP yet. I think it would just be great though if Dark Knight became THE PvP class. Would certainly bring them back into the spotlight.

[Romance]

Well pretty much nothing is known about pvp except there will be pvp at some point. Well yes Drks have raw power but there crappy agilty and low def are a major weak point. IMO a bst/war will pretty much own all in one on one pvp, but were just going to have to wait and see.

[Kaizoku]

It has been confirmed that Square awile back said, that there will NOT ever include any Player vs Player of any kind. So please show proof that there is going to be PVP i would like to see it said from square....

[mlwolfinger]

The following segment comes from a Gamers.com interview with FFXI developers Richard Honeywood, Yasu Kurosawa and Hiromichi Tanaka:

"Gamers.com: The Conquest system has players working against each other indirectly, trying to further their towns at the others' expense, but is there any direct player-versus-player content in the game?

Tanaka: We've actually got PVP in the system already, it's implemented, but we haven't opened that up to the players yet. The reason we haven't done that is because you have to have a goal. You have to have a reason for doing that. There's nothing in the story that gives us a reason for it, so until we do develop that, it won't be available."

Obviously they could just decide to never open PvP but that seems unlikely since they've already gone through the trouble to put it in the programming. Anyway, I hope that's the proof you were looking for.

Here's the link if you'd like to read more: http://www.gamers.com/news/1381896

[Black Heart]

Originally posted by Kaizoku
It has been confirmed that Square awile back said, that there will NOT ever include any Player vs Player of any kind. So please show proof that there is going to be PVP i would like to see it said from square....

Ahem: http://ffxi.cogn.net/forums/showthre...threadid=20041

I guess I'm the only one who actually looks around the forums.

[FFXITsukasa]

Dark Knights should be really good at picking on poor mages like me. They get Mage Killer how sad. heh heh :-) Needless to say I'm gonna try and avoid meeting one in a back alley.

[voodoo]

I guarentee S-E will make PvP balanced, so I don't think any particular job will have any advantage over another. Also I reakon it'll be PT vs PT rather than 1vs1

[Thylteev]

I think the PvP will most probably be mainly with parties.

[Black Heart]

Originally posted by Thylteev
I think the PvP will most probably be mainly with parties.

Yes I agree. But parties need high damage dealers and the main thing that keeps a Dark from doing his greatest damage, is hate. No monsters = no hate = free to use all attack boosts to smash other players. Also from the screenshots it seems it doesn't HAVE to be in party. They could be misleading though.

[Reneir]

Ok, now forgive my naviette but, what exactly is hate? i havn't heard a straight answer anywhere and i don't know what it is... and since i plan on DRKing at some point... seems to be important...



But isn't it better to be feared than loved?

[ostriker]

I was thinking about this in PvP, but since the opponents are people you cant use abilities like taunt, so whats to stop teams from just killing all the mages at the beginning of the fight? So i wanna know how Square plans to change this.

[TeH-Magus]

Originally posted by Reneir
Ok, now forgive my naviette but, what exactly is hate? i havn't heard a straight answer anywhere and i don't know what it is... and since i plan on DRKing at some point... seems to be important...

[TeH-Magus]

well i dont know about u guys, but i played AC2

and the PVP in that game was actually pretty well done,and there was an area wear it was PVP, and anyone could kill anyone

and ppl got into parties of like 60, and other ppls did too, and ud have big big wars

was mad fun
(i was one of the guys who was maxed lvl, on 2 chars so it was hella fun )

and second thing they did was have duals

ppl would meet in an area (forget the name)
and it would be 1v1, no holds barred

if someone interferes or something, 900 ppl would RAPE him lol

so that was always fun, having ppl count down "3, 2 , 1 FIGHT!"
and then they charge at eachother
and its really interesting to see if there are 2 near exact same fighters, who has better micro and who will win the battle

and wen winning a fight ud get pk pts, and after a lot of pk pts u can get spells n skills n abilities

so me, i thought that was really well done

[SAVAGE]

lol did he just say no pvp ever. go to www.playonline.com usa and it shows a drk hume vs a elvaan pld, its a small screenshot but looks cool hehe. scythe vs greatsword.

as for the kill mages. have you ever fought bloodtear or steelfleece, they have a type of provoke i think where if you run they use it and it brings you right at there feet. sqaure might do something like this, otherwise you use alot of binding or sleep2 most of there party.

[Thylteev]

It's also officially announced with a time of when it will be implemented on the official site. It's also stated that it will not be PK style.